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    What the hell is up with this

    I have quite a few friends that have lots of knowlage of roids and have been doing them for over 10 years . The use deca ,test ,tren masterone well just about everything. But they do not use any AI's or SERMS ever . They never get gyno or really even bloat( I know about 3 guys like this). Then you have the normal guy who has to run AI's or SERM in every cycle or will get awful gyno symtoms. Just wanted to get some feedback on why this occurs?? Why dont these guys get gyno using heavy doses of tren, test and so on???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercedesdd
    I have quite a few friends that have lots of knowlage of roids and have been doing them for over 10 years . The use deca ,test ,tren masterone well just about everything. But they do not use any AI's or SERMS ever . They never get gyno or really even bloat( I know about 3 guys like this). Then you have the normal guy who has to run AI's or SERM in every cycle or will get awful gyno symtoms. Just wanted to get some feedback on why this occurs?? Why dont these guys get gyno using heavy doses of tren, test and so on???
    there are way too many things to have to take into consideration to answer this question correctly and accurately.

    for starters, a persons bf% will affect the amount of aromitization that occurs, as fat is where this process happens. also, some people are more prone than others to feminization symptoms (gyno n water retention).

    when i started using gear, the guy i got them from didn't tell me anything about anti-e's. at the time i didn't know about pct either, but i was trying to research the best i could and was just lacking knowledgeable resources at the time.

    as far as not using an anti-e back then, i never had any issues. i'd get real puffy in the face from the water retention, but never any gyno. my sex drive would drop for a bit after a cycle, but it was never anything that bad. all in all i did pretty good without any anti-e's or pct, but of course after learning about pct, it did help me recover quicker and i strongly advise everyone to use them pct.

    it really just all depends on the person and how they react to this stuff. some people can get away with no anti-e's, some can't. regardless, i'd always advise them as pct. if you can get away without using anti-e's during cycle, go for it, but make sure to keep some letro or other strong anti-e on hand just in case those nips get sore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ascendant
    there are way too many things to have to take into consideration to answer this question correctly and accurately.

    for starters, a persons bf% will affect the amount of aromitization that occurs, as fat is where this process happens. also, some people are more prone than others to feminization symptoms (gyno n water retention).

    when i started using gear, the guy i got them from didn't tell me anything about anti-e's. at the time i didn't know about pct either, but i was trying to research the best i could and was just lacking knowledgeable resources at the time.

    as far as not using an anti-e back then, i never had any issues. i'd get real puffy in the face from the water retention, but never any gyno. my sex drive would drop for a bit after a cycle, but it was never anything that bad. all in all i did pretty good without any anti-e's or pct, but of course after learning about pct, it did help me recover quicker and i strongly advise everyone to use them pct.

    it really just all depends on the person and how they react to this stuff. some people can get away with no anti-e's, some can't. regardless, i'd always advise them as pct. if you can get away without using anti-e's during cycle, go for it, but make sure to keep some letro or other strong anti-e on hand just in case those nips get sore.
    Thanks , They do use them in pct. I was not clear on that ( sorry) just never on a cycle... They do have very low BF so I am sure that helps ....

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