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looking to do a classic bread and butter stack (test & deca) in a bit, and was wondering about anadrol to kick start it. I have experience with dbol, but a-bombs i have always stayed away from.
from people who have experience with both...which do you prefer? concidering sides and ability to maintain gains after kick starting cycle...is anadrol really worth it. i have never had to much bad sides from dbol, besides a little bloat.
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Well, d-bol is stronger than drol per mg, but people normally run anadrol in higher dosages than d-bol.
I would choose d-bol with that stack, b/c ansdrol has progesterone activity yust like deca, and that can cause problems like gyno, bloating, impotence, difficult recovery.
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According to my own personal research, Dbol would be stronger in a mg to mg basis when compared with anadrol and less hepatoxic with a less likelines of estrogenic sides occuring. Basically, I would go with Dbol.
As always though, get more opinions before concluding your plan.
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Anadrol makes me very strong but it also suppresses my appetite alot were dbol doesnt (as much) so for this reason alone, if i had to pick one for myself i would go with dbol, because if you can't eat, you can't grow..........simple as that
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yea i was trying to figure out whether the cost of using anadrol outweighed its benefit. cause with abombs i know the sides are a lot harsher than dbol....so basically its just like is it worth it.
cause 100mg drol vs. 40mg dbol, i hear drol wins in strenghth gains hands down
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Originally Posted by gymrat12345
But what if there was an equal dose compared?
100mg Dbol to 100mg Adrol........??
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Naw Vitor, anadrol is not progestinic at all, it's not a 19nor. It doesn't aromatize either seeing it's a DHT derivative.
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I would pick anadrol for sure. I'm not a big fan of d-bol since all it really does for me is puff me up and make me look bloated. While using anadrol, water retention is to be expected as well but I don't find it quite as bad as d-bol. The strength gains on anadrol are far better then with d-bol as well. I find both aggravate hair loss for me as well, so that an unfortunate side for both. As far as keeping gains, I would say I keep more from anadrol. That's also because I have less bloat from it in the first place.
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According to steroid-guru "Bill Roberts", Anadrol is progestinic.
Ive seen people who has gotten nipple soreness or aggravated gyno with drol, even though they been on high dose anti-estrogen. This means that Drol is not estrogenic, but mostly likely it affects the progesterone recepter. Thats possible one of the reasens it causes lots of water-retinsen as well
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Nope. Oxymetholone is not progestinic, its structure allows it to activate the ER on its own. The progestinic properties of drol were all (incorrect) speculation due to the fact it doesn't aromatize yet caused estrogenic sides.
Desausles PA, Les hormones anabolisantes de point de vue experimental (Anabolic hormones from an experimental viewpoint), Helv. Med. Acta 1960 , 479-503
This study proves drol is not progestinic.
Also drol has anti-progesterone properties.
Inhibition of progestational activity for fertility regulation.
Chatterton RT.
PIP: This review examines a number of areas of postconceptive fertility regulation, focusing on promising new antiprogestational agents. Pregnancy is dependent upon the availability of progesterone for the uterus and its withdrawal results in the breakdown of the secretory endometrium. Its availability can be interferred with at several levels and the new methods which allow for progesterone inhibition must be tested for possible defeminizing properties or for serious side effects. In the evaluation of contragestational agents, several areas must be taken into consideration--assessment of biological activities, dose requirements and mode of action, duration of effects, route of administration, and drug tolerance and side effects. The failure to maintain progesterone in the blood at levels required for pregnancy maintenance may be due to a decrease in progesterone secretion by the ovary or to an increased rate of metabolism and excretion of circulating progesterone. The various substances discussed do either 1 or the other; however even when a compound is known to result in a decrease in the rate of progesterone secretion, the process by which it does this may not be known. Prostaglandins seem to affect myometrial contraction, luteinizing hormone releasing hormones can inhibit steroid production or interfere with LH binding to its receptor, and immunization against hCG is a successful immunological approach to conception. Lithospermic acid is another substance which interferes with gonadotropin support of the ovary and has good potential. Other compounds that interfere with progesterone secretion act to inhibit steroidogenesis in the ovary and placenta; such substances include aminoglutethimide, oxymetholone, trilostane, azastene, and danazol. Another progesterone-suppression method would remove a sufficient amount of progesterone from the body to cause endometrium involution and promote contractility of the myometrium. Progesterone antagonists include ORF 9361, R3434, Anordrin, ORF 3858, and other estrogens, triazole compounds, ORF 5513, trichosanthin, and zoapatanol.
PMID: 12179622 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Dbol has been shown in rats with their pituitary glans removed, to show no anabolic properties, therefore implying that at least part of Dbol gains are a direct result of GH secretion.
Just read that last night.
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