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[Mr_disfunkshun]

well I think its time Its been 2 years off and I am ready to get started so I was thinking about a 12 week cycle

SUS+ Deca
Week 1 Sus 1000mg Deca400mg
Week 2-12 500mg deca400mg.

Week 12-14 Hcg 2000iu 2times a week And nova just in case but with this light cycle I should be fine

I have been doing this for some time but with the long lay over i thought this would make a nice start back..?

[HORSE~]

I dont know your past cycle history

But if it was me I would drop the front load and add dbol for week's 1-4

I would also stop the deca atleast 1 if not 2 week's before you stop the test

[SMAN12b]

I dont know your past cycle history

But if it was me I would drop the front load and add dbol for week's 1-4

I would also stop the deca atleast 1 if not 2 week's before you stop the test

Listen to the Ninja, he speaks the truth!!!

[Mr_disfunkshun]

I dont know your past cycle history

But if it was me I would drop the front load and add dbol for week's 1-4

I would also stop the deca atleast 1 if not 2 week's before you stop the test

Why drop the front load ...? why D-ball becasue of the faster onset. as for the week or 2 stoping the deca never tryed that but than again I have tryed all kinds of stuff stop the Deca week 12 Ok will take under advisement Thanks

[Booz]

if you want to frontload mate frontload it,plenty of people use the frontloadin method with sucsess..............i would however run the test a week longer than the deca,it will help with recovery...........

[SPIKE]

The frontload is optional. I've tried it and it worked OK, but have seen better results with a steady dose and an oral kickstart as mentioned.

Due to the half-lives of the drugs, stop the Deca a week earlier then the Sust. If you really want to be anal stop the Deca 3 days earlier to match up exactly with the longest ester in the Sust.

[HORSE~]

I'd drop the front load because I don't think that extra 500mg that first week is gona make much diference other than to cause A flucuation in test levals Id prefer to keep test levals stable and kick start with the dbol JMHO

[Mr_disfunkshun]

I'd drop the front load because I don't think that extra 500mg that first week is gona make much diference other than to cause A flucuation in test levals Id prefer to keep test levals stable and kick start with the dbol JMHO

Ok cool i will try the dball 1-4 weeks I have it but was saving it for second cycle But i have always frontlaoded as for the stright through with the deca since it was low I figurad that i didnt have to cut short As in the past when doses were high about 800mg of deca I would decline the dosage the last 5 weeks as follows 800mg 600mg 200mg off start HCG becasue I would run 16-18 week cycles

[SPIKE]

I'd drop the front load because I don't think that extra 500mg that first week is gona make much diference other than to cause A flucuation in test levals

Actually that's what Frontloading is supposed to do. You should get a quicker spike in Test levels and then even right out and continue quite steadily. I had a great chart on the differences and cant seem to find it at the moment.

If anyone is really interested they can input their own cycles into the roidcalc and see the difference for themselves. It will show a difference which leans towards the frontload to be more steady.

www.roidcalc.com

[Mr_disfunkshun]

Actually that's what Frontloading is supposed to do. You should get a quicker spike in Test levels and then even right out and continue quite steadily. I had a great chart on the differences and cant seem to find it at the moment.

If anyone is really interested they can input their own cycles into the roidcalc and see the difference for themselves. It will show a difference which leans towards the frontload to be more steady.

www.roidcalc.com

Thats why i have always front loaded becasue by week 3 had a good blood level and with the steady dosage was able to add mass also this cycle is very low for me but with the long lay off I know from past experinace start slow to much to quick you loose out on a lot of gains because you can never go back just move forward >>> but on aother cycles I have done a front load with anadrol for 2 -4 weeks (bulking) off season But never tryed the D-ball thing I have been training for 12 years and have run every thing from anadrol to HGH, IGF-1 and I have always been safe with getting checked with docs every other week blood liver kidneys EXT..... I have always been extreme Well becasue I have trained with pro,s NOT DOING ANY NAME DROPPING , I was not a plate loader , But i am OLD SCHOOL but I dont know everything you can teach an old dogs new tricks