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    Question 3RD Cycle : Need opinions

    Hey Guys

    I am currently on my 2nd cycle.....still a novice , still do a lot of research and learning....just need opinions...

    My stats : Age 33 , height 6'0 , weight 182lbs , BF 11%
    I have been training / lifting for 4 years....just want to mention that I have gained 17lbs on my current cycle......been working hard and following dieet advise researched on this site....also realise that I will shed weight again after this cycle....

    My current Cycle : Sust 250 , 500mg / week ( 14 weeks) , Decca 300 mg /week ( 10 weeks) , proviron 50mg per day....pct will consist of Nolvadex, Hcg and aromasin over 6 weeks....will be finished with this cycle in 4 weeks...then start PCT....

    My goal is to reach 190-195 lbs in lean muscle /mass.....I am not prone to Gyno and generally do not store fat easily....I have been doing research on Anavar and have decided on it for my next cycle...

    Here is what I am thinking :

    Anavar 100mg / day for 12 weeks ( Starting day 1)
    Sustanon 250 mg / week for 8 weeks ( Starting week 4 of the cycle)
    Proviron 50mg per day for duration of cycle....

    Will run PCT with nolvadex after the cycle.....do I need to use the hcg as well when I am running the above mentioned dose of Sust....The Sustanon works great for me... think it will counter the sex drive problem on the Var...plus the other benefits...

    I will take time off for 4 months after my current cycle....

    Any advise / opinions will be appreciated
    Cheers Guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capricorn
    Hey Guys

    I am currently on my 2nd cycle.....still a novice , still do a lot of research and learning....just need opinions...

    My stats : Age 33 , height 6'0 , weight 182lbs , BF 11%
    I have been training / lifting for 4 years....just want to mention that I have gained 17lbs on my current cycle......been working hard and following dieet advise researched on this site....also realise that I will shed weight again after this cycle....

    My current Cycle : Sust 250 , 500mg / week ( 14 weeks) , Decca 300 mg /week ( 10 weeks) , proviron 50mg per day....pct will consist of Nolvadex, Hcg and aromasin over 6 weeks....will be finished with this cycle in 4 weeks...then start PCT....

    My goal is to reach 190-195 lbs in lean muscle /mass.....I am not prone to Gyno and generally do not store fat easily....I have been doing research on Anavar and have decided on it for my next cycle...

    Here is what I am thinking :

    Anavar 100mg / day for 12 weeks ( Starting day 1)
    Sustanon 250 mg / week for 8 weeks ( Starting week 4 of the cycle)
    Proviron 50mg per day for duration of cycle....

    Will run PCT with nolvadex after the cycle.....do I need to use the hcg as well when I am running the above mentioned dose of Sust....The Sustanon works great for me... think it will counter the sex drive problem on the Var...plus the other benefits...

    I will take time off for 4 months after my current cycle....

    Any advise / opinions will be appreciated
    Cheers Guys
    It would help to know what compounds and doses, length your other cycle was .

    Why would you wait to start the Sust in week 4 as it will take about that long just for the longer esters in Sust to fully kick in?

    Why would you drop the dose of Sust down to 250/week after running it at 500/Week in previous cycle??

    What does your food intake look like? that will determine more than anything else what kind of gains you can make?
    What is your training like as that will also determine your gains?

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    Thank you for the reply man....

    My initail idea was just to run the ANAVAR to see what I can achieve....I geuss I want to achieve my goal weight without loosing 10 lbs again afterwards...my first cycle consisted of Test Enantate only 500mg / week for 12 weeks....I kind of had my PCT screwed up afterwards....only used Clomid...have not done enough research then...and lost weight fast....from 178lbs back to 165lbs...still kept on training...dieet was not spot on as well....lot of mistakes...learning everyday man...also , I get acne easily...had a problem when I was younger....so I thought running the Sust at lower Dose will have less sides...plus help with the low sex drive that might be a problem later in my cycle on anavar....i am not basing this on any facts....just researching for now

    I eat 6 times a day...take in as much protein as possible , especially with the Decca.....not exactly sure, but would say I average 2500-3000 cal per day....3 whey protein shakes per day....I train 5 days a week, one body part per day...working in smaller muscle groups twice a week....do cardio (cycling) 4 times a week and swim for 30 minutes , 3 times per week....My dieet is not 100% still....work in Iraq....not always the best food around...

    Hope this helps more
    Thanks

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    I would leave the sust at 500mg/week, but no higher since you know its working well for you this cycle. split it into at least 2 shots a week. And I normally wouldnt run an oral for longer than like 4-6 weeks. Thought about starting with dbol or something similar for like weeks 1-4, then come off on anavar for weeks 6-12?

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    i myself was going to experiment running var for 10 weeks. i had done research like that and it will be fine for you. tho if its your first time taking var you may want to lower the dosage a bit. i was going to go 60mgs which is a dost alot of people get good results from and i think you would also at your weight. a good mod on here told me that he saw no difference in gains when he ran 80mgs var vs when he ran 60mgs var. may be able to save a couple bucks and get same results.

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    Thanks guys so far....I will keep on doing some more research...I geuss I will keep the Sust at the same dose , 500mg/ per week , maybe just over 8weeks and run the VAR at 60mg / per day....it is gonna be a typical case of trial and error....maybe I will get closer to my end goal, maybe not....what do you guys think about the pct....I am going to run my proper pct of nolvadex, HCG and Aromasin after my current cycle.....and just stick with it after my next cycle, unless i decide to run Anavar only...
    Cheers

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