Aromasin while off cycle to raise test levels?

[Polska]

Ive heard that liquidex can double the amount of free test while off cycle in a four week period, making it a very effective test booster. But what about aromasin? can it be used effectively off cycle?

[shortie]

Yes, aromasin will act as a natty test stimulant-not sure how effective it is at this compared to ldex, but I would say the same or better.

[Swifto]

Ive heard that liquidex can double the amount of free test while off cycle in a four week period, making it a very effective test booster. But what about aromasin? can it be used effectively off cycle?

Yes. It will raise levels of testosterone or LH/FSH, like many of the other AI's. Use it for PCT or whilst "on". But....I wouldnt inbetween cycling.

Mind you....Ross just stated somewhere AI's should always be used by BB'ers, year round....?

[shortie]

Ross smokes crack-You know that Swifto.

[Ufa]

Ive heard that liquidex can double the amount of free test while off cycle in a four week period, making it a very effective test booster. But what about aromasin? can it be used effectively off cycle?

Yes, it's excellent off and on cycle. Been using for about 8 months. 1 mg per day on cycle .5 mg off cycle. Thats just me. I get blood work done and
try to keep estrogen below the 100 mark.

[Swifto]

Ross smokes crack-You know that Swifto.

Dirty Dirty Ross!

[Swifto]

Yes, it's excellent off and on cycle. Been using for about 8 months. 1 mg per day on cycle .5 mg off cycle. Thats just me. I get blood work done and
try to keep estrogen below the 100 mark.

How are you testosterone levels?

Is it possible to suppress estrogen so much that the body will no longer produce its own? Just like the testes and testosterone?

[Ufa]

How are you testosterone levels?

Is it possible to suppress estrogen so much that the body will no longer produce its own? Just like the testes and testosterone?

Swifto-- makes a good point. I assumed you were getting your blood tested
every three months.

[ascendant]

Is it possible to suppress estrogen so much that the body will no longer produce its own? Just like the testes and testosterone?

these are two opposites bro. with testosterone, it suppresses our own natural test production because we're getting an external source of it supplied to our bodies in a great over-abundance. our bodies get an ample supply and lower production, hence the temporary shutdown period we get at the end of a cycle.

with anti-e's, it's blocking the estrogen we already have or with others, keeping it from even being made, causing a deficit. this actually causes the opposite effect of what test does in that it makes our bodies try harder to make estrogen. this is why there is a "rebound effect" after taking letro. the body overcompensates once it's producing estrogen again until it figures out there's no need.

[Swifto]

these are two opposites bro. with testosterone, it suppresses our own natural test production because we're getting an external source of it supplied to our bodies in a great over-abundance. our bodies get an ample supply and lower production, hence the temporary shutdown period we get at the end of a cycle.

with anti-e's, it's blocking the estrogen we already have or with others, keeping it from even being made, causing a deficit. this actually causes the opposite effect of what test does in that it makes our bodies try harder to make estrogen. this is why there is a "rebound effect" after taking letro. the body overcompensates once it's producing estrogen again until it figures out there's no need.

So was Ross right? We should take AI's year round to reduce estrogen and increase testosterone?

[Smart@$$]

So was Ross right? We should take AI's year round to reduce estrogen and increase testosterone?

Oh, hell no. But he is saying that on certain compounds like letro you would need to use nolva as there would be a rebound effect after discontinuance.

[one8nine]

these are two opposites bro. with testosterone, it suppresses our own natural test production because we're getting an external source of it supplied to our bodies in a great over-abundance. our bodies get an ample supply and lower production, hence the temporary shutdown period we get at the end of a cycle.

with anti-e's, it's blocking the estrogen we already have or with others, keeping it from even being made, causing a deficit. this actually causes the opposite effect of what test does in that it makes our bodies try harder to make estrogen. this is why there is a "rebound effect" after taking letro. the body overcompensates once it's producing estrogen again until it figures out there's no need.

is this rebound effect only with letro or l-dex and aromasin too?

[vitor]

When estrogen levels gets driven down, the hypotalamus/pituitary will respond with producing more LH/FSH, which raises tesosterone. Any AI will do this to some degree, some are better/stronger than others though.

[Polska]

I am tempted to try using ldex 4 weeks on / 4 weeks off while off cycle... year round. I have naturally very low test levels, to the point where I've considered running HRT (250mg of test E a week year round). I think I'll try running an AI though; just not sure whether the price difference between liquidex and aromasin makes aromasin worth it

[ascendant]

So was Ross right? We should take AI's year round to reduce estrogen and increase testosterone?

nah, i don't think it's a good idea. too much messing with your bodies hormonal production can throw things off if you're doing it year round without any breaks. your cycles and gear is what's supposed to give you results, not taking an anti-e.

also, doubling your test levels won't do much if anything at all considering you're lowering your estrogen at the same time. though excessive estrogen during a cycle and during pct is a bad thing, having your estrogen levels too low can be an issue too. our bodies do need a certain level of estrogen to function properly, and estrogen does also help us get our results in the gym, hence why you'll notice decreased results from a cycle if taking excessive anti-e's during it. do a web search on male estrogen and you'll see how important it is and why lowering it like that is just a bad idea.

while on a cycle, i don't know the exact numbers, but i know we're boosting test levels well beyond double what our bodies normally produce. course it shuts our own bodies production down after a while, but the levels we're getting from the external source (gear) is taking those levels probably at least 10 times above what they'd normally be, i would imagine it would actually be far greater than even that. merely doubling our test levels would be hardly anything worth bothering with IMO and not worth the potential health risk of year round hormone tampering.

[ascendant]

Oh, hell no. But he is saying that on certain compounds like letro you would need to use nolva as there would be a rebound effect after discontinuance.

you got it. our bodies always try to balance themselves out whatever way they can. if they begin to have excessive amounts of certain hormones or other chemicals, they'll shut down production. however, if somethings causing certain hormones to be blocked or unproduced, your body will find ways to increase production or at least try harder to do so till it works and the levels begin to rise again.

[ascendant]

is this rebound effect only with letro or l-dex and aromasin too?

well, you'd get a slight rebound from just about any of them. however, letro will give the most pronounced rebound. i don't believe aromasin or l-dex would give any kind of rebound to be concerned about afterwards. if you're on a fairly hefty dose of them, simply gradually taper off and it should be minimal.