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    Take it easy guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    Take it easy guys.
    no prob with me or the other guys abstrack.. just that tommybody character going nutz..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    yea but he knows it all so we cant tell him anything.. lol.. 2 orals at once?!?!? how dare I.. what a retard

    haha yea really how dare both of us run multiple orals at once?

    i can only imagine what he must think of me, running 3 orals at once. i suppose that makes me the biggest asshole on AR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    no prob with me or the other guys abstrack.. just that tommybody character going nutz..

    yea he was. he started talkin sh_t for no reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    yea he was. he started talkin sh_t for no reason
    Read his other posts. Melt down in action.

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    Ross gained 25lbs in 4 weeks on the tbol/var combo. He had 0 estrogen in his body as well. He also jacks off donkeys for a living.

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    id like to run tbol/var, but i dont have any anavar . i do however have lots of dbol , tbol and winni.

    i got some test e too. looks like i got my next cycles figured out

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    the only thing i wish i had is a few hundred vials of human grade sus 250...

    that and liz sitting on my lap so i could kiss her for hours. but it looks like i wont be getting either.

    btw, im not trying to fish for a source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    yea, its dbol , tbol and winni. each at 50 mgs ed. i know thats incredibly liver toxic, but whatever. its a pretty effective stack. haha, after i do 5 or 6 more il be benching like 600 pounds, maybe more...

    i can hardly wait

    Yeah, this is a guy that I would to go to war with. Who cares, as long as I get jacked!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    Yeah, this is a guy that I would to go to war with. Who cares, as long as I get jacked!


    i feel sorry for whoever goes to war with america, especially if they sent in guys like you and me. if theres one thing i like as much as steroids , its shooting guns. haha, i can hit a bumble bee from 30 feet away with a pellet gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i feel sorry for whoever goes to war with america, especially if they sent in guys like you and me. if theres one thing i like as much as steroids, its shooting guns. haha, i can hit a bumble bee from 30 feet away with a pellet gun
    hahah

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    tbol Is ok. Var is weak. Both are alright. Winstrol is stronger than both, so that should tell you how strong they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znak
    Out for cheap friends again are we now Tommy boy.

    I'll give you... three days here
    I'll give less.

    You get one warning Tommy Boy.

    No need for the middle-finger smiley Znak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i feel sorry for whoever goes to war with america, especially if they sent in guys like you and me. if theres one thing i like as much as steroids , its shooting guns. haha, i can hit a bumble bee from 30 feet away with a pellet gun
    thats precision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolios
    thats precision

    haha yea. you need a really good gun to do that though. a red ryder just wont cut it.

    but if you got yourself a gamo hunter 220, you can hit practically anything you can see.

    haha, those things will blow pennies apart at close range too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    tbol Is ok. Var is weak. Both are alright. Winstrol is stronger than both, so that should tell you how strong they are.
    i really dont think var is weak by any means. I believe by by own personal experience that it is a greta drugs and produces solid quality gains. I would not say Winstrol is any more effective then var by any means. The only difference is the price tag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    i really dont think var is weak by any means. I believe by by own personal experience that it is a greta drugs and produces solid quality gains. I would not say Winstrol is any more effective then var by any means. The only difference is the price tag.


    I guess it varies per individual. Tbol alone vs Tbol/Var stack only difference with var was during workout a better pump with more veins....after workout they went away....Strength gains ok

    Winstrol strength gains better than both var + Tbol. I also appear harder and alittle bigger. I love tbol because its affordable with low sides and decent gains but far from a miracle drug. Var to pricy for how weak I! react to it. Winstrol to many sides<---- joints, liver etc.

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    yea i am hoping to get some good lean gains from both these compounds.. today I felt stronger on back and bis and some more veins appeared.. hope it just gets better by the day!!

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    I haven't run var... but i've run tbol and winstrol in the same cycle

    tbol @ 100 mg ED
    winstrol @ 150-200 mg ED

    Tbol wasn't 'fantastic' imo.

    Winstrol is however.

    The strength was great.. even when i cut my calories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    I haven't run var... but i've run tbol and winstrol in the same cycle

    tbol @ 100 mg ED
    winstrol @ 150-200 mg ED

    Tbol wasn't 'fantastic' imo.

    Winstrol is however.

    The strength was great.. even when i cut my calories

    How did you tell which one was doing what? Did you implement them at different times of the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLBMWMech
    How did you tell which one was doing what? Did you implement them at different times of the cycle?
    Yes.. i was running winstrol and test-prop tru-out.

    I added masteron mid cycle.. and tbol near the end

    I'm sensitive to DHT (LOVE IT!).. i notice strength gains when i implement a dht-derivative. Strength gains are dose dependant... so when i upped the dose of winstrol.. strength climbed.. The same occurred when i lowered the dose.. and added masteron in it's stead.

    When i added tbol (in the latter part of my cycle) i lowered the winstrol dosage (to 150 mg ED) to assess the tbol's contribution. Didn't notice anything.. no sides either at that dosage i should note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyHitter
    Wurd!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    Ross gained 25lbs in 4 weeks on the tbol/var combo. He had 0 estrogen in his body as well. He also jacks off donkeys for a living.
    LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
    Is this too much gear? Especially the Orals 17aa? I hear they are toxic... then I hear they are not so bad. Orals would be Dbol , Var maybe Tbol.

    Here's the plan:

    Full Cycle 10 -12 weeks

    week 1-6 40 mg ED Dbol
    week 1-12 500mg Test Enth per week
    week 9-12 40 mg Var
    week 14 -18 20/40/40/20 Nolvadex
    X anabolic perfect cycle NAC, Milk Thisle, ALA - entire cycle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
    I've been on cycle for 6 weeks doing 500 Test E / week and 40 mg Tbol ED.

    Is it TOO MUCH GEAR to add 80 mg VAR ED for last 6 weeks AND continue TBOL?
    Or drop orals(one or both) last 6 weeks,and do test only?

    I ask because Tbol and Var are such a good combo and low sides / liver tox.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
    You wanted input or experience with Tbol.....

    I told you It raised my BP and gave me headaches.

    No need to be a dipshit, but then anyone who would combine 2 17aa compunds must be an asshole.
    I don't give a flying donkey turd about you, asshole.

    I think we have another split personality on the board....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    i feel sorry for whoever goes to war with america, especially if they sent in guys like you and me. if theres one thing i like as much as steroids, its shooting guns. haha, i can hit a bumble bee from 30 feet away with a pellet gun
    Yeah, I would share a trench with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    I think we have another split personality on the board....
    I smell Ross dress for less. For some reason he just pushes that tbol/var combo then gets banned again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    I think we have another split personality on the board....
    haha yes it seems like we do..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    I haven't run var... but i've run tbol and winstrol in the same cycle

    tbol @ 100 mg ED
    winstrol @ 150-200 mg ED

    Tbol wasn't 'fantastic' imo.

    Winstrol is however.

    The strength was great.. even when i cut my calories
    Interesting... It seems some people love tbol or dont get much out of it.. Day 9 today.. day off.. legs tomorrow so I will report any changes,increases later on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    Interesting... It seems some people love tbol or dont get much out of it.. Day 9 today.. day off.. legs tomorrow so I will report any changes,increases later on..
    If somebody tries to compare tbol to dbol or drol then of course they think tbol doesn't do much. Understand that you gain no water so you don't get that fake weight. You do get stronger on dbol and drol because of the water creating leverage but I believe the keepable lbm is better with tbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    If somebody tries to compare tbol to dbol or drol then of course they think tbol doesn't do much. Understand that you gain no water so you don't get that fake weight. You do get stronger on dbol and drol because of the water creating leverage but I believe the keepable lbm is better with tbol.
    yea I defintely see your point.. I have never used dbol or anadrol , only tbol.. I am trying to gain as much lean mass as possible so thats why I chose tbol and var.. probably in the future I will run dbol and some other stuff for more mass gains.. I do feel that I am getting leaner though.. But I am also on a very clean diet and good cardio and training routine.. only time will tell..

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