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    Oooouch!

    ok, third cycle and first time running any gear ED...winny @ 50mg ED and ive had to start the thigh cuz Lord know if i keep hittin the gluts they will fall off.

    question is...my thigh is soar for atleat 3 days after the injection...is this normal?

    it almost F'n hurts all day long...

    not bitchen and moanin just curious if this is the norm?

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    yep.. normal.. thus whyy many drink it instead..
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    personally, i never had pain from the shots, however, i stick with orals simply cuz i can't stand ed shots period, and they're cheaper (usually), and just as effective...

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    Yeah it is....everday shots get old quick bro....and you know winny should be shot twice a day.....its in your system only 8 to 12 hours...then out of your system....thats why guys drink it.

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    ill be taking shot #11 of 42 today and yes it is getting old.

    Ive seen on thise site that you lose 18% of the dosage if you drink it - i dont have enough to drink it i bought enough to stick ED for 6 weeks but damn this is getting rough.

    i might jump to drinking it and not worry about the the 18%...any thoughts on this?

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    Adjust the dose accordingly and administer it orally IMO. Never used it, so cant comment on personal experience, but can say many dont report differences. I believe there is a 17% increase in nitrogen retention when injecting it, comparing it to taking it orally.

    What else are you running, apart from Winstrol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Adjust the dose accordingly and administer it orally IMO. Never used it, so cant comment on personal experience, but can say many dont report differences. I believe there is a 17% increase in nitrogen retention when injecting it, comparing it to taking it orally.

    What else are you running, apart from Winstrol?
    cycle is as follows:

    currently in week 11

    1-4 dbol 40mg ED
    1-12 sust 250 E3D
    9-14 winny 50mg ED
    1-14 letro .25 ED

    nolva/clomid PCT 24 hours after last winny

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    You can try cutting it with B-12 to lessen the pain of ED shots, that may help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scerpico22
    cycle is as follows:

    currently in week 11

    1-4 dbol 40mg ED
    1-12 sust 250 E3D
    9-14 winny 50mg ED
    1-14 letro .25 ED

    nolva/clomid PCT 24 hours after last winny
    If it were me and I was getting uncomfortable pain from the shots. I'd up the dose to 75mg/ED and adminiter it orally. Half AM, half PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    If it were me and I was getting uncomfortable pain from the shots. I'd up the dose to 75mg/ED and adminiter it orally. Half AM, half PM.
    if i do this with the supply i have it will leave me 6 days short on the full 6 weeks.

    i dont think this is too bad...if the shots continue to bug me too much this is what ill do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    I believe there is a 17% increase in nitrogen retention when injecting it, comparing it to taking it orally.
    yeah, i saw that study, done on dogs, at very strange dosing patterns...probably not on the same type of diet and training regimens as most of us...so i wouldn't put alot of stock in those findings...

    however, i do totally agree on upping the dose to 75mg orally instead...

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    I'd drink it. ED shots suck imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    yeah, i saw that study, done on dogs, at very strange dosing patterns...probably not on the same type of diet and training regimens as most of us...so i wouldn't put alot of stock in those findings...

    however, i do totally agree on upping the dose to 75mg orally instead...
    2xs daily AM and PM ?

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    Scerpico, heh, i followed the cup pretty closely this year...spent about an hour drooling over that pic when i saw it on MSN, "girls of the cup", or something like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    Scerpico, heh, i followed the cup pretty closely this year...spent about an hour drooling over that pic when i saw it on MSN, "girls of the cup", or something like that...
    wow thats great, thats exactlly where i got it from...she is unbelievable

    theres actually another pic of her...ill attach both of them for your viewing pleasure brotha...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    Yeah it is....everday shots get old quick bro....and you know winny should be shot twice a day.....its in your system only 8 to 12 hours...then out of your system....thats why guys drink it.
    do U mean shooting 25mg am 25mg pm? . can I shoot the 50mg at once?
    What about this, Shooting 50mg one day, and drinking 75mg onther? would this work??

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    damn man, shoot winny twice a day??? sell that off, get the orals and forget about it...btw, eod injects are sufficient, but i suppose it's all about optimization nowadays, i just think it's splitting hairs.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by abokeef
    do U mean shooting 25mg am 25mg pm? . can I shoot the 50mg at once?
    What about this, Shooting 50mg one day, and drinking 75mg onther? would this work??
    very interestng about the drink 1 day and shoot the next.

    hmmmm...now you got me thinking.

    maybe shoot 50mg EOD mid day then Drink 75mg twice a day Am and PM????

    this sounds llike it should work

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    Quote Originally Posted by scerpico22
    very interestng about the drink 1 day and shoot the next.

    hmmmm...now you got me thinking.

    maybe shoot 50mg EOD mid day then Drink 75mg twice a day Am and PM????

    this sounds llike it should work
    Yah man, I'm going to start my winny next satrday, and I want to know the easiest an most efective way of taking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abokeef
    Yah man, I'm going to start my winny next satrday, and I want to know the easiest an most efective way of taking it.
    im on my 11th day and...well the title of this thread says it all...

    like i stated above, not bitchin about the ED shots but it does and is getting old pretty fast.

    im going to try the drink/shoot method and see how this goes...

    good luck bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scerpico22
    im on my 11th day and...well the title of this thread says it all...

    like i stated above, not bitchin about the ED shots but it does and is getting old pretty fast.
    im going to try the drink/shoot method and see how this goes...

    good luck bro!
    I'm sorry, But What dose this mean? excuse my foreign language..!!lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    damn man, shoot winny twice a day??? sell that off, get the orals and forget about it...btw, eod injects are sufficient, but i suppose it's all about optimization nowadays, i just think it's splitting hairs.....
    I'm with you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by abokeef
    I'm sorry, But What dose this mean? excuse my foreign language..!!lol
    basically that my legs are killing me and im getting tired of it....some morning i fell like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by scerpico22
    basically that my legs are killing me and im getting tired of it....some morning i fell like this
    lol..got it thanx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    damn man, shoot winny twice a day??? sell that off, get the orals and forget about it...btw, eod injects are sufficient, but i suppose it's all about optimization nowadays, i just think it's splitting hairs.....

    how would eod injects be any good for ANYTHING with an 8-12 hour half life

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    how would eod injects be any good for ANYTHING with an 8-12 hour half life
    tell you what, without arguing with you on the matter, i'll just say "give it a shot"...some people swear up and down that the best way to shoot prop is ed, but i've taken it mwf, and blown all to hell...as you hear constantly, everyone is _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (you fill in the blanks).

    remember, i said it's NOT OPTIMAL, however, you'd still see decent results...doesn't matter much to me though, since i only go with oral winny...

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