Tren and dosages?

**Tbol** · 07-09-2006, 04:45 PM

I have a question I have been taking tren .75 ml a day for about 3 weeks
and test e at 500 a week divided in two

I started to get some gyno signs but I got hold of some arimadex and in like two days it started to go away. I think I am going to switch to letro just to make sure it does not come back.

I was told if I cut back on my tren to every other day I will still make better gains because I will not be overloadin my system and I was told I will still make as good or better gains going every other day with less sides gyno, irritability, liver etc... I also have to take prescription sleep meds because the stuff gives me super insommnia. I

I know that I have been feeling very irritable and I was told that comes with the territory

also I had some pain in a knee from squats and a doctor gave me celebrex and told me take 10 days off the squats and wrap it up with a good sports bandage.

If I do got to every other day what is likely to happen

also I noticed that My test is like 450 to 475 instead of 500 so I got cheated or some or it just was that way from the manufacture.

Anyway I am at exactly three weeks and everyday shots are getting to be well a real pain in the but (no pun intended)

I am just a few months shy of 40 this is my 2nd cycle, the other one was 10 years ago and it was 5 weeks I had planned to go 10 weeks but some guys are telling me I put myself at less risk by going for a 6 or 8 week cycle.

My number one goal is two return to normal. I am not going to do this again maybe HGH through a doctor but this is my 2nd and last cycle do to my age etc

and I do not want to be one of these guys who are on test patches
like some people. I can't afford it for one thing and my sex drive and normal test levels were good before I started this.

In other words I am not a pro or planning to be a pro body builder
I am just trying to improve myself before I step into middle age and i want to exit this experience the least damaged possible!

**Tbol** · 07-09-2006, 05:05 PM

Any thoughts, any older guy who have used tren

**tobetutz** · 07-09-2006, 06:48 PM

There is an over 30 forum you might want to check out

**tonytone** · 07-09-2006, 06:57 PM

if you want to be "damaged" as little as possible, and you're not really looking to get huge or become a bodybuilder, i would drop the tren all together..you can achieve your goals with a proper diet/training program..honestly, you dont really need AS..but if you want to, stick w test for sure...and if you insist on the tren, dont shoot EOD, you might benefit from dropping the dose to 50mg/day

**Tbol** · 07-09-2006, 07:20 PM

there is nobody ever in the over 30 forum that is why I am in this forum

No, I want to put on more muscle so my metabolism will go up

I am already 6'1 and I weigh 250
I would say Only 195 of that is muscle.
I have pretty broad shoulders and chest

my arms are short and naturally not very big so if I get 19 inch biceps I will have acheive a lot.

I have a 38 waist now and I want to get it down to 34
I am doing this to look good,pull babes etc

I plan to keep training follow a proper pct and eat correctly but at my age
putting on muscle and recovering is not obtainable to the level I want without gear. I know that is why I did this

I had a guy tell me the tren with the test would give me the cuts and gains
Fortunately I am not taking orals. That is too risky for me.
I do not drink alcohol and i take milk thistle, vitamins etc

I will be able to achieve all I want from this cycle until I get older 45 then I may need HGH to keep it going.

I just want my natural test to come back when I am done, keep my muscle gains and enjoy the results of my hard work. I am trying to be responsible as I can. the tren is a homebrew

I am trying to get cut and put on muscle
Now my diet was not that great when I started
I had protein drink with sugar and milk etc

Now I am using protein with zero carbs and i am eating chicken breast
and taking my food to work.

I just wanted to know if there is a big difference in the impact on your body between a 6 week, 8 week, or 10 week cycle and will going frm 75 to 50 really make that much difference?

**tonytone** · 07-09-2006, 09:11 PM

i think the impact on your body is about the same for a 6,8,or 10 wk cycle..once you start a cycle your body will become affected (lower natty test production etc), so i dont think a few wks diff will be a big deal...as for the tren , yes, changing the dosage from 75mg/day to 50 could make that much of a difference IN SOME PEOPLE..have you ever run tren before? perhaps 75 mg/day is a little high, especially if you need Rx to sleep

**roybon79** · 07-09-2006, 09:39 PM

I have had really good results with tren 600mg/wk slit into eod divided doses. it will make you very vascular and give you no water retention. IIt is not going to do much to bring up your arm size. I have right around 20 inch arms and am 5'10. I mainly stick with the good old standby, deca . it works the best for size with less water. If you mix the 2, you will need either cealis, or some test if you want to keep your girlfriend happy