Tren and dosages?

[Tbol]

I have a question I have been taking tren .75 ml a day for about 3 weeks
and test e at 500 a week divided in two

I started to get some gyno signs but I got hold of some arimadex and in like two days it started to go away. I think I am going to switch to letro just to make sure it does not come back.


I was told if I cut back on my tren to every other day I will still make better gains because I will not be overloadin my system and I was told I will still make as good or better gains going every other day with less sides gyno, irritability, liver etc... I also have to take prescription sleep meds because the stuff gives me super insommnia. I

I know that I have been feeling very irritable and I was told that comes with the territory

also I had some pain in a knee from squats and a doctor gave me celebrex and told me take 10 days off the squats and wrap it up with a good sports bandage.



If I do got to every other day what is likely to happen

also I noticed that My test is like 450 to 475 instead of 500 so I got cheated or some or it just was that way from the manufacture.


Anyway I am at exactly three weeks and everyday shots are getting to be well a real pain in the but (no pun intended)

I am just a few months shy of 40 this is my 2nd cycle, the other one was 10 years ago and it was 5 weeks I had planned to go 10 weeks but some guys are telling me I put myself at less risk by going for a 6 or 8 week cycle.

My number one goal is two return to normal. I am not going to do this again maybe HGH through a doctor but this is my 2nd and last cycle do to my age etc


and I do not want to be one of these guys who are on test patches
like some people. I can't afford it for one thing and my sex drive and normal test levels were good before I started this.

In other words I am not a pro or planning to be a pro body builder
I am just trying to improve myself before I step into middle age and i want to exit this experience the least damaged possible!

[Tbol]

Any thoughts, any older guy who have used tren

[tobetutz]

There is an over 30 forum you might want to check out

[tonytone]

if you want to be "damaged" as little as possible, and you're not really looking to get huge or become a bodybuilder, i would drop the tren all together..you can achieve your goals with a proper diet/training program..honestly, you dont really need AS..but if you want to, stick w test for sure...and if you insist on the tren, dont shoot EOD, you might benefit from dropping the dose to 50mg/day

[Tbol]

there is nobody ever in the over 30 forum that is why I am in this forum

No, I want to put on more muscle so my metabolism will go up

I am already 6'1 and I weigh 250
I would say Only 195 of that is muscle.
I have pretty broad shoulders and chest

my arms are short and naturally not very big so if I get 19 inch biceps I will have acheive a lot.

I have a 38 waist now and I want to get it down to 34
I am doing this to look good,pull babes etc

I plan to keep training follow a proper pct and eat correctly but at my age
putting on muscle and recovering is not obtainable to the level I want without gear. I know that is why I did this

I had a guy tell me the tren with the test would give me the cuts and gains
Fortunately I am not taking orals. That is too risky for me.
I do not drink alcohol and i take milk thistle, vitamins etc

I will be able to achieve all I want from this cycle until I get older 45 then I may need HGH to keep it going.

I just want my natural test to come back when I am done, keep my muscle gains and enjoy the results of my hard work. I am trying to be responsible as I can. the tren is a homebrew

I am trying to get cut and put on muscle
Now my diet was not that great when I started
I had protein drink with sugar and milk etc

Now I am using protein with zero carbs and i am eating chicken breast
and taking my food to work.

I just wanted to know if there is a big difference in the impact on your body between a 6 week, 8 week, or 10 week cycle and will going frm 75 to 50 really make that much difference?

[tonytone]

i think the impact on your body is about the same for a 6,8,or 10 wk cycle..once you start a cycle your body will become affected (lower natty test production etc), so i dont think a few wks diff will be a big deal...as for the tren, yes, changing the dosage from 75mg/day to 50 could make that much of a difference IN SOME PEOPLE..have you ever run tren before? perhaps 75 mg/day is a little high, especially if you need Rx to sleep

[roybon79]

I have had really good results with tren 600mg/wk slit into eod divided doses. it will make you very vascular and give you no water retention. IIt is not going to do much to bring up your arm size. I have right around 20 inch arms and am 5'10. I mainly stick with the good old standby, deca. it works the best for size with less water. If you mix the 2, you will need either cealis, or some test if you want to keep your girlfriend happy