not gaining mass like i want to?

**statuZ** · 07-11-2006, 07:24 PM

hey last cycle i ran 700mg week test / 500 mg week npp, and i gained alot of mass and i was extremely happy with this cycle. Currently im on tren 75mg/ed and test prop 80mg day, and while i have gone up a few lbs in the scale im not seeing the same results i did last cycle, or even close to it. I doubt my gear is fake. Im thinking it was either cuase i was taking ldex (and it might have been inhibiting my gains) or that trenbolone for some people just makes it hard for them to gain mass. My diet is approx 4400 calories day, 400+ grams of protein and 350+ carbs mostly coming from real foods. Stats are
21 yrs old
208lbs
10-11% bf

My question is this: should i drop the trenbolone alltogether and start up with some NPP (which is what i really want to do) or should i lower the dose of tren to 35mg ed and then still add npp at like 500mg week? Thanks for your input

**tonytone** · 07-11-2006, 07:27 PM

you combined test/wk is only 560mg..i would be shooting at least 100mg prop ED along with 75mg tren a...that's my fav combo, prop and tren...i would not drop the tren..i dont have any experience w npp though..how long you been on the prop/tren?

**statuZ** · 07-11-2006, 07:33 PM

5 weeks, i did plan on upping the test in the next week or two so that it comes out to be roughly 750mg week. But like i said i am not putting on the lbs like i should be (i have been eating ver clean)

**idunk42** · 07-11-2006, 07:36 PM

Are you dealing with outside issues in your life or not getting plenty of sleep. Ive had a cycle blown to shit from bad sleep patterns.

**statuZ** · 07-11-2006, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by idunk42

Are you dealing with outside issues in your life or not getting plenty of sleep. Ive had a cycle blown to shit from bad sleep patterns.

dude yes, im just lethargic all the god damn time. Like Okay heres my sleep schedule. I wake up at 2pm in the afternoon and then aorund 5 i start to get REALLY TIRED AGAIN (and i havent worked out yet) so ill usually tak e a hour or two nap then go work out or go workout then take a nap. And then when it comes to falling asleep at night i usually fall alseep at 4am, and my sleep quality is terrible. I wake up like 8 times from 8-am-11am to take a piss. So i think i get enough sleep, i just seriously have no motivation at all. And i am always in a bad mood, just feeling negative (except for some times), i think this tren is playing with my head

oh yeh and it really is fukinw ith my head that im so horny and i am not getting any poon.

**rock steady** · 07-11-2006, 08:03 PM

horny+no poon=fuk with head

**need2bhuge** · 07-11-2006, 08:10 PM

I'm not sure about others but it took about 5 weeks for the tren to kick in during my last cycle. You seem to be eating enough, so just give it some time...oh yeah, increase the prop!!