when do the cycle results REALLY show?

[Tbol]

I have been on the 75 mg of tren ace a day and 375 of test e
(yeah I know 500 test is better but I got what I got)

It has been 3 days shy of one month. I noticed a pretty big difference after 2 weeks. I am a lot more pumped looking and everything is getting tighter
I am training everybody part at least once a week and more when I am not to tired. I am almost 40 and I work so I do get more fatigued then I did when I was 20

I was wondering how many weeks more before I should see more results
or should I say those here who have experience with this combination

I honestly can remember when I was in my 20's being the same as I am now
with just 6 months of heavy training and I was leaner then for sure

I am 6'2 I weighed starting about 250 with probably with only 190 to 200 pounds of pure lean muscle

I still weight about the same but I am getting harder and tighter though still not good enough to want to put a photo out . I still have some love handles and a little bit of a double chin left.

My diet has been good for the last four weeks only one crap meal a week
otherwise chicken breast a slice of bread here and there

but mostly chicken breast and protein shakes

I do not remember getting results this fast though
I am impressed but I am not near as impressed as I thought
I would be.

I certainly do not look anywhere near ready to even have a tiny amateur
photo in the back of a muscle mag

I guess what I am wondering is everyone is saying do a 8 to 10 week cycle
I am halfwalf to that point what type of gains have you get by going that long vs a 5 or 6 week

More importantly how much of your gains have you kept?

[ShnouzedUp]

what kind of test are you running... when i run enanth or cyp, i don't see results till week 8 or so.. so i always run it 12 weeks.. tren i see around 2-3 weeks, and gains stop around week 6-8... i suggest eating more quality food, and not relyin so much on protein shakes.. maybe have like 2 or 3 a day but nothing over that..

[Chipper Jones78]

What is BF% ?

It sounds like two things to me:

1) It sounds as though your BF% is too high and you took/taking the wrong compounds

2)You shou;d not used ASS based your body type, with some hard work, clean diet and discipline, you would drop 5-15 pounds of fat, then proceeded with ASS.

My .02 cents

Glad to see your training at 40, good stuff

Chip

[HORSE~]

What is BF% ?

It sounds like two things to me:

1) It sounds as though your BF% is too high and you took/taking the wrong compounds

2)You shou;d not used ASS based your body type, with some hard work, clean diet and discipline, you would drop 5-15 pounds of fat, then proceeded with ASS.

My .02 cents

Glad to see your training at 40, good stuff

Chip

Oh shit what is it that he is supposed to do with ass LOL

Or did you mean aas

[Tbol]

well I have given it thought and if most people here using pct get there balls,test, and cholesterol together it may be worth it.

I just do not want to be sitting 8 weeks post cycle with no sex drive and super low hdl that is not good

My body fat is not quite as bad as it sounds. THis has tightened me up a lot
I want to go to another level while I am on the cycle

the test is ethanate so I have a choice to end my tren in two days and go two more weeks on test then wait two weeks to begin pct and so on that would be a 6 weeks cycle

or go for a 8 or 10 week cycle. I just want to know my boys are going drop again and start producing my own test soon.

Some one posted a thread on short cycles and it made 10 week cycles sound dangerous compared to a 6 week?? what is up with that?

[JiGGaMaN]

well I have given it thought and if most people here using pct get there balls,test, and cholesterol together it may be worth it.

I just do not want to be sitting 8 weeks post cycle with no sex drive and super low hdl that is not good

My body fat is not quite as bad as it sounds. THis has tightened me up a lot
I want to go to another level while I am on the cycle

the test is ethanate so I have a choice to end my tren in two days and go two more weeks on test then wait two weeks to begin pct and so on that would be a 6 weeks cycle

or go for a 8 or 10 week cycle. I just want to know my boys are going drop again and start producing my own test soon.

Some one posted a thread on short cycles and it made 10 week cycles sound dangerous compared to a 6 week?? what is up with that?

No one even mentioned pct, but im glad you brought it up as its ESSENTIAL to keeping gains made post cycle. Run your test 10 weeks not 6, enanthate does not start to take effect until week 5/6.