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    YZFR1Tim is offline Junior Member
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    Who draws out with one needle and injects with another?

    I have some friends that have been using gear for a while now. One of them swears up and down by withdrawling gear with one pin (usually bigger) then injecting with a smaller one (changing the pins after it is in the syringe).

    Another friend of mine says there is no need and don't worry about it. What does everyone do on here? and what guages do you use?

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    I always draw with an 18g because its really fast and inject with 23g. The reason is two fold, one is speed the other is the pin gets blunted when its pushed through rubber. You could use the same pin if you are using amps but its to frigging slow to draw it up IMO

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    If i am using more than one compound, then I draw with the 18g and shoot with either a 23 or 25 g
    If i am only drawing one, then I usually don't bother to change it, but i do notice a difference in the sharpness of the needle after drawing even only one compound

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    I change pins

    F#CK a dull pin that shit hurt's

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    i change pins

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    i change pins but i like to draw some b12, 1/2 cc into the syringe to make sure the chamber gets purged of my aas and then i let the b12 go to the top and witch pins and inject and that way i get 100% of what i inject and only lose about 1/4cc of b12

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    ..I change pins after drawing...

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    i change. I inject with a 25 and it takes to long to drawer out with that, and a 25 gets dull fast.

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    If I am only drawing once I will inject with the same dart I draw with. IF I am drawing more than 1 compound or if I have to penetrate the rubber more than once I switch to a fresh dart. If you have access to enough darts then using a different one to inject with is ideal.

    *I have to write this just in case: NEVER RE-USE NEEDLES THAT HAVE BEEN USED IN INTRAMUSCULAR INJECTIONS!*

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    Dude darts are so dan cheap....I draw with 18 and shoot with 23...no problems...the only darts I ever re-use was IGF...best bet is wholesale sites...there are plenty outthere...don't be cheap...this is an expensive habit

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanatic
    If I am only drawing once I will inject with the same dart I draw with. IF I am drawing more than 1 compound or if I have to penetrate the rubber more than once I switch to a fresh dart. If you have access to enough darts then using a different one to inject with is ideal.

    *I have to write this just in case: NEVER RE-USE NEEDLES THAT HAVE BEEN USED IN INTRAMUSCULAR INJECTIONS!*
    I just want to make sure that I am being clear. When we talk about re-using darts, we are talking about using the same dart to inject with that we draw the gear with. NEVER re-use a needle that you have used to inject with. I may be being too cautious with this but I dont want someone to mis-read what we're talking about.

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    i used to use 18ga for draw but now i use 20ga cause i got pieces of rubber in afew of my shots and it was a pain cause i had to keep and eye on it cause that would suck to get an abcces from a chunk of rubber!!! and i use 23ga to stick!!!

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    Rubber stopper

    Like most of these guys i do the same, i draw with an 18ga and shoot with a 23ga.
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    Its a good practice to use a fresh syringe when injecting..it makes for a smoother shot as well as lower scar tissue.

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    Food for thought!.

    I draw with one and shoot with a new one. But if I'm taking more than one shot, which is most cycles. I'll just keep shooting with the original, ie if I'm taking two delts and one glute shot I'll reuse the same pin.

    However this might give some of you food for thought!.

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    i used to change between withdrawling gaer from amp,these days i use same needle to injectin.and i also dont change needle anymore if there is more than one shot.

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    wow, great info. It sounds like i need to order some sets of pins and syringes. I only have syringes coming at 23 guage. those pictures were good, i didn't know it had that affect.

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    i always switch the pin. goes in much much smoother..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER


    good pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    I always draw with an 18g because its really fast and inject with 23g. The reason is two fold, one is speed the other is the pin gets blunted when its pushed through rubber. You could use the same pin if you are using amps but its to frigging slow to draw it up IMO

    I'm with Kale on this one. 18 to draw and 23-25 for injections.

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    i change

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    i would change if drawing from a vial

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    I draw with a 20g and shoot with a 25g.....

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    18 gauge to draw and 23 1" to pump up

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    it would always be a good idea to change pins as outlined abouve.......
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    I always change.

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    Always change. Those dull pins hurt

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    i only change pins if i am drawing from vials and use 18G to draw and 23G to shoot with.

    if i am using amps then i just stick with a 23G

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    Use one pin to withdarw for sure , especially wen using more than one substance !!! Remember, a nice sharp needle goes in like butter apposed to a blunt ended one !!!

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    God bless who uses the same needle 6 times , looks brutal from the pics. I withdrawl with one pin and shoot with a new one. shit its not that expensive, people spend thousands on there gear and wont spend a dime to do the job right

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    Same pin. I like PAIN!!!!

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