what makes a chemical be able to be used for research

**Merc..** · 07-15-2006, 10:41 PM

I was wondering how a chemical gets to be classified as a research chem ?? I mean if stuff like letro, caber, clomid , nolva and cialis qualify to be used for research purposes how come more chems are not able to be used for research also??Do you think proviron would ever be a research chem??

***Narkissos*** · 07-15-2006, 11:04 PM

To my understanding.. If a chemical has not been tested in human trials it can be sold as a research chem.

**Merc..** · 07-15-2006, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

To my understanding.. If a chemical has not been tested in human trials it can be sold as a research chem.

Thanks Nark!!!!!

***Narkissos*** · 07-15-2006, 11:17 PM

Then again... i'm not totally sure... lol... cus there are human trials out on clomid and nolva lol

**Anabolios** · 07-15-2006, 11:35 PM

i asked lion about the proviron and it cannot be sold as a research chem for legality reasons..maybe because its an androgen? or because it has androgenic properties? or what nark mentioned above not totally sure bump for lion

**almostgone** · 07-15-2006, 11:48 PM

I thought if it was scheduled as a prescription drug, then it was no longer considered a resesarch chemical......

...where's Rick Collins when you need him?

AG

**one8nine** · 07-15-2006, 11:55 PM

there is probably a thin legal line case by case people try shit and if they get away with it they get away with it

**HORSE~** · 07-16-2006, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by almostgone

I thought if it was scheduled as a prescription drug, then it was no longer considered a resesarch chemical......

...where's Rick Collins when you need him?

AG

I belive that nolva clomid and most of the others are scheduled as perscription drugs.Yet they are still offered as research chem's

I am curious also hope we can get a answer not that it makes a difference for me but it does make you scratch your head

I wonder if this should be posted in ar-r 's forum to get a solid answer from lion.

I dont know GRRRR this is all confusing me.

**Anabolios** · 07-16-2006, 12:39 AM

i asked him this question before about proviron ..i didnt get a clear answer..then again i didnt ask for one i just asked if proviron was offered as a research chem..but you have to also look at the properties of proviron..it free's up test,has androgenic properties,maybe mild anabolic properties (never cycled it alone

) and some consider it a "steroid " some consider it an ai...i assume through legalities one of these factors comes into play...hence why lion cant offer it..im sure it'd sell well if he could offer it

**IBdmfkr** · 07-16-2006, 01:08 AM

Cialis, cabergoline (dostinex), clomid, nolva etc etc.. the list keeps going on, many presciption drugs are sold as research chemicals, and I believe if anyone was caught with them you'd be prosecuted.

**mwolffey** · 07-17-2006, 12:08 PM

bump...this is interesting

**SEBASTOP** · 07-17-2006, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

To my understanding.. If a chemical has not been tested in human trials it can be sold as a research chem.

Then; How come Cialis is sold as research chemical?

**Lavinco** · 07-17-2006, 02:17 PM

I think it's a reasearch chemical until approved by the FDA or something like that.

**mwolffey** · 07-17-2006, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lavinco

I think it's a reasearch chemical until approved by the FDA or something like that.

wrong...because nolva and clomid as well as cialis and others are approved...so its all about loopholes in laws...my guess is that liquids are more legal and legally able to be sold for "research" purposes over pill forms

**Lavinco** · 07-17-2006, 03:00 PM

**** it! I'll just look it up for all of us then

Research chemical is a term to used euphemistically to describe newer, quasi-legal psychoactive drugs. The term is typically used by the suppliers of substances which, although not prohibited by any law, are likely to attract the attention of law-enforcement agencies, who will attempt to prevent their sale and punish the supplier. The use of a descriptive term that cannot be connoted as encouraging human consumption is apparently intended to minimise the legal risk to the supplier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_chemicals

I gotta go eat my salmon and rice PPWO.

**smartwater** · 07-17-2006, 03:14 PM

so law enforcement would be targetting lion at the mo???

**mwolffey** · 07-17-2006, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by smartwater

so law enforcement would be targetting lion at the mo???

well they are probably watching him, but i doubt they are that interested in him as hes not a supplier of some stuff like GHB or other drugs....plus he uses chemicals and not pills, as well his labeling says clearly that its not for human use, so he really covers his As$