EQ cycles/stacks

[Conehammer]

Ive been doing some reading about Eq, sounds like it provides the kind of gains Im after.

Im fairly new to this, have cycled Winny with PCT. so Ive got a few questions about this stuff.

Whats good to run with Eq, Ive read on this site that a guy needs to run test with it? Can it be used on its own, or with winny?

...and good PCT with Eq?

Thanks.

[C_Bino]

Well what are your goals?
Give us some stats about yourself so we can assess the situation better.

[Conehammer]

Im 6', 210lbs, quite lean, I dont kno my exact BF% tho.

I want to have more definition and vascularity. I dont really want to gain too much weight either, bulking is not what Im after.

[tonytone]

test e w eq is an ok cutter cycle..i myself was not all that impressed w EQ when i used it, but it may work wonders for you..in my opinion eq is most effective when ran for at least 12 wks, so it might look something like this
wks 1-13 test e @500mg/wk
1-12 EQ @ 400mg/wk
what's your diet look like? what WILL it look like if you start a cycle?

[mkrulic]

eq is very overhyped. If you dont run test w/ it youll run the chance of your nads being shut down. I've run 600mg's/week for 10 weeks w/ eq (along w/ test) and I did not notice anything different. I can get it for almost free and I will not do it. completely worthless. you can acheive more definition and vascularity through cardio, diet and intense workouts

[BajanBastard]

EQ 600mg week
Test E 200mg week
.25mg letrozole EoD.

[pdog80]

I've done eq in a previous cycle and I wasn't exactly thrilled with the results. In my opinion there are other better AAS to cut. I personally like primo and tren . Masteron 's ok too. I would recommend tren but it sounds like this is gonna be your second cycle so......tren's not a good idea. You could run a test/eq cycle but don't expect amazing results. Something like 5-7 pounds of muscle w/a bit more vascularity is possible with a good routine and a spot on diet.

[C_Bino]

EQ 600mg week
Test E 200mg week
.25mg letrozole EoD.

I am down with this 100%. Personally I dose letro ed not eod though. Have had signs of gyno come on when using eod in the past.

But I really like this cycle.

[tonytone]

EQ 600mg week
Test E 200mg week
.25mg letrozole EoD.

why so low on the test

[BajanBastard]

Just for TRT tony. He said he doesn't want big gains so i believe that cycle will do just that.

[Conehammer]

Right on guys thanks, lots to think about here now... Ill figure out what Im gonna run in the next little while.

[Liftnainez]

you do NOT have to run test with eq.. you can run eq/winny, eq/var, eq/tbol and get some real good keepable gains..

[Conehammer]

Would AI not be require then on an Eq/Winny cycle?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Would AI not be require then on an Eq/Winny cycle?

You wouldnt need one during cycle.
But You will need a PCT.

[Hellmaskbanned]

eq is very overhyped. If you dont run test w/ it youll run the chance of your nads being shut down. I've run 600mg's/week for 10 weeks w/ eq (along w/ test) and I did not notice anything different. I can get it for almost free and I will not do it. completely worthless. you can acheive more definition and vascularity through cardio, diet and intense workouts

^^^^^^^

What do you think test does to your nads..........Increase natural testosterone !

[Hellmaskbanned]

you do NOT have to run test with eq.. you can run eq/winny, eq/var, eq/tbol and get some real good keepable gains..

I know....So many think its in stone that if you cycle test has to be in it.

PPl's goals are different. Some might not like to get bloated. (Even with an AI some are sensitive to gyno and bloat)

& the term no test no cycle is Whack!

[Conehammer]

OK, thanks Hell, thats what I thought.

Will definatly do a post cycle.

[Conehammer]

Id like to stay away from aromatizing compounds, am sensitive to gyno. Have slightly had it since puberty, and I hate acne.

I want to run Eq/winny for that reason.

[Anabolios]

Id like to stay away from aromatizing compounds, am sensitive to gyno. Have slightly had it since puberty, and I hate acne.

I want to run Eq/winny for that reason.

eq/tbol/proviron

or bajans proposed cycle will work perfect for your goals

[mkrulic]

^^^^^^^

What do you think test does to your nads..........Increase natural testosterone !

no it shuts you down but I challenge you to find the difference. I mean, who cares if your shut down if you got test in your sys. eq shuts you down and w/o test you have no test. that seems redundant

[Anabolios]

no it shuts you down but I challenge you to find the difference. I mean, who cares if your shut down if you got test in your sys. eq shuts you down and w/o test you have no test. that seems redundant

eq shuts you down? hmmm it suppresses your natural testosterone but i dont see it shutting you down sorry bud

[Liftnainez]

I know....So many think its in stone that if you cycle test has to be in it.

PPl's goals are different. Some might not like to get bloated. (Even with an AI some are sensitive to gyno and bloat)

& the term no test no cycle is Whack!

yea exactly

[tjs114]

you do NOT have to run test with eq.. you can run eq/winny, eq/var, eq/tbol and get some real good keepable gains..

i'm on an eq/winny cycle right now this is my second cycle with my first being winny only.

i'm taking 700 mg wk eq and 50 mg ed winny

results:
before: 6'1" 230#'s 11%bf
bench: 375

current: (wk 10)
232#'s 9%bf
bench: 455

[mkrulic]

eq shuts you down? hmmm it suppresses your natural testosterone but i dont see it shutting you down sorry bud

I dont see the difference. no test means no test; again, this seems redundant

[2bigsyd]

test cyp 400mgs week 1-10
eq 600mgs week 1-10
anavar 40mgs day week 1-6

[Hellmaskbanned]

I dont see the difference. no test means no test; again, this seems redundant

The difference is Test shuts your natty test Completely. No more production nadda, 0, none.....Harder to recover from.

Eq/var/primo/tbol etc. suppress your natty test SOME. Some production still going on very little, tiny bit.....Easier to recover from.


Yeah but after a long time with higher doses they all can shut you down..COMPLETELY.

Thats the difference.

[Brazil]

this is a very interesting argument. It is making me rethink my next cycle...... I was going to do weeks 1-14 750 test, and 600 eq. weeks 1-6 dbol 35mg day. weeks 15-19 50mg winny. Maybe i dont need the test that would save me from getting 50 grams of powder.......

[Hellmaskbanned]

this is a very interesting argument. It is making me rethink my next cycle...... I was going to do weeks 1-14 750 test, and 600 eq. weeks 1-6 dbol 35mg day. weeks 15-19 50mg winny. Maybe i dont need the test that would save me from getting 50 grams of powder.......

But remember, Test is going to give you most of your gains. Very good compound for Size & Strength. So It's really up to the individual and what his goals are for the cycle. Personally i don't like heavy/long cycles, compared to light/short cycles.......When I use to take. Safer , gains easier to recover from and easier to maintain gains. BUT I wasn't looking for quick huge size gains. Again , it's really up to the individual and what HE wants.

[layinglow]

I agree with mkrulic, you need test in your cycle, it vastly improves your results, and you can still get you dick hard. low test levels are hard on your system.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I agree with mkrulic, you need test in your cycle, it vastly improves your results, and you can still get you dick hard. low test levels are hard on your system.

Mkrulic is flipfloppy with his ideas. He says one thing then gets proven wrong then acts like he never said it.

U Do Not Need Test in EVERY CYCLE if your goals don't require it.

But yes Test is Usually a good compound to add in MOST cycles.

[Anabolios]

I dont see the difference. no test means no test; again, this seems redundant

how do you not see the difference? some anabolics are SUPPRESSIVE on your natural test production while others SHUT YOU DOWN like heavy androgens...eq is far from a heavy androgen so you can use it without a complete shutdown of your natural testosterone production...cycles like this are great for people with heavy sensitivity to gyno or water retention..or they just simple arent looking for huge gains..so lets keep the crazy talk to a minimum

[hardgainer1]

im on week 7 of test e 750mgs per week and eq 500mgs per week, Ive run test without eq 3 other times and I can say that it is DEFINITELY making a big difference in my cycle. Im getting size WITH cuts, I look rediculous, Im almost embarassed at how my arms look after they get a cartoonish pump in the gym, Its ****ing amazing

[longtom74]

thats due to the eq right?

[Brazil]

im on week 7 of test e 750mgs per week and eq 500mgs per week, Ive run test without eq 3 other times and I can say that it is DEFINITELY making a big difference in my cycle. Im getting size WITH cuts, I look rediculous, Im almost embarassed at how my arms look after they get a cartoonish pump in the gym, Its ****ing amazing

thats what I want...... cant wait till january hahahhahah the monster will be backkkkkkkkkk

[hardgainer1]

im attributing the extreme vascularity and inhuman appetite to the Eq and the cut lean muscle gains. Im not even taking anti e's yet. I usually waiti till I get some sensitivity in the nips.

[xderekx]

i am trying something that not alot of yous may agree with. i am beginning my PCT today from 10 weeks of prop 75mgs per day. also, i've been running EQ 600mgs per week for the past 10 weeks. i am going to continue running EQ as i PCT from the prop (clomid, nolva, trib, tongkat ali). as i run the EQ for another 2-4 weeks(undecided) i'm assuming my natty test levels will be rejuvinated back to normal regardless of the EQ?

a buddy of mine is on week 12 of EQ 500mgs per week & he has seen no shutdown or loss in libido. he has gained nice strength & lean mass. he's ran the same cycle last summer & had no problems recovering.

[Anabolios]

i am trying something that not alot of yous may agree with. i am beginning my PCT today from 10 weeks of prop 75mgs per day. also, i've been running EQ 600mgs per week for the past 10 weeks. i am going to continue running EQ as i PCT from the prop (clomid, nolva, trib, tongkat ali). as i run the EQ for another 2-4 weeks(undecided) i'm assuming my natty test levels will be rejuvinated back to normal regardless of the EQ?

a buddy of mine is on week 12 of EQ 500mgs per week & he has seen no shutdown or loss in libido. he has gained nice strength & lean mass. he's ran the same cycle last summer & had no problems recovering.

ross said something to this effect but i really dont know if id trust it..id run your pct 3 weeks after your last eq injection a better way to do it would be run the prop with the eq..and while youre waiting the three weeks after your last eq injection keep the prop in there right up to pct

[mkrulic]

Mkrulic is flipfloppy with his ideas. He says one thing then gets proven wrong then acts like he never said it.

U Do Not Need Test in EVERY CYCLE if your goals don't require it.

But yes Test is Usually a good compound to add in MOST cycles.

can you show me an example. this is extreemely rude to make a statment like this w/o evidence.

[Anabolios]

can you show me an example. this is extreemely rude to make a statment like this w/o evidence.

look at the comments you made in this thread..i cosign hellmask's statement

no offense

[Hellmaskbanned]

look at the comments you made in this thread..i cosign hellmask's statement

no offense

I guess I'm not the only one seeing this flip flopper flip flop his flippen words.

And mkrulic don't pm me again.

Your ideas are whack, & I didn't flame you. I & others I might add just proved you wrong on multiple occasions.