limited supply this cycle ok?

[forestcall]

Hi-

Need some advice

If this is all you had for a cycle how would you take it?
Timing and dosage?

I have the following:
Cypionate 200MG @8amp of 2ml each
Sustanon 250 @4amp of 1ml each

I am thinking of spreading it out like this-
200mg Cypionate 1 per week (i have 8 doses total)
250mg Sustanon one dose every 10-14 days (i have 4 doses total)

I have stacked various ways but I need some advice. Mainly I am living in a country where I can not easily get more for the time being and I want to start a cycle.

Thanks!!!

PS I love this forum! Such a great and positve group!

[DDDNTZ]

That "cycle" makes no sense at all. What are your stats?

[Xtralarg]

Your gona struggle there, you need more cyp,forget the sus it needs to be taken eod and that means youve only got 8 days worth.If you cant get cyp the test e will be fine.

[SkylineGTR]

DUMP THE SUS. it need to be inj. EOD

[forestcall]

DUMP THE SUS. it need to be inj. EOD

I have read that Sus is active for ten days?

"Although Sustanon 250® remains active in the body for approximately three weeks, injections are taken at least every 10 days. An effective dosage ranges from 250mg (one ampule) every 10 days, to 1000mg (four ampules) weekly."

[forestcall]

Your gona struggle there, you need more cyp,forget the sus it needs to be taken eod and that means youve only got 8 days worth.If you cant get cyp the test e will be fine.

Well I guess I will just use what I have until I can get more. Im living in China and cant leave for a few months. So....this is what I have for now.

Do you think my dose of INJ one 200mg ml per week and sus every 10 days will be atleast better than nothing?

Or am i missing some side affects that are not good?

Thanks!

[forestcall]

That "cycle" makes no sense at all. What are your stats?

Stats.......

I think you mean -

Weight= 184
Height= 5-11
Fat= 9%
Age-34
Race= Human
Country of Origin=USA
Eyes= Blue
Personality= Funny guy

I mostly mtn bike, compete in marathons, tri-athalons, adventure racing, etc.

Diet is not great- I eat very oily, fatty, high carbs. China is hard to keep a diet. I run a building materials export company and part of the job is many many dinners and beer. But due to my work out schedule I keep very fit-

I lift 4 days a week for 2 hours each.
I do 3-6 hrs of cardio per 5 days a week.

[DDDNTZ]

You need to focus on your diet instead of cycling 4 amps of sus. My guess is that your diet if far from being in check. Anyone will tell you that steroids do not build muscle alone, diet and proper training do. Gain some more mass natty. then think about getting some more test. Good luck.

[SMAN12b]

Sorry man, but that cycle sucks!

Diet is 88% of the equation, you are just asking for trouble and more side effects with a crappy diet

Cyp should be shot twice a week and takes anywhere from 6-8 weeks to fully kick in so you have not enough

Although for TRT purposes sust can be shot once a week or even less freq., for BB purposes to keep blood levels stable, it SHOULD be shot EOD to also take advantage of the quicker esters if not then you levels with roller coaster

Go check out the diet forum and see how you can better adjust your eating.
there are many bodybuilders in China, so don't use the excuse that you can't eat right. If you don't have the dedication to eat correctly, you really shouldn't be using AAS

WELCOME TO AR

[forestcall]

You need to focus on your diet instead of cycling 4 amps of sus. My guess is that your diet if far from being in check. Anyone will tell you that steroids do not build muscle alone, diet and proper training do. Gain some more mass natty. then think about getting some more test. Good luck.

Thanks sincerly.....

The diet is the pain of my life these days. But in China it is impossible. As I mentioned I run a steel-homes factory and must attend dinners and such events. So I am forced to eat what the Chinese eat. At home I eat well but nothing like I do when I am in USA.

Actually you would be amaized at how badly Chinese eat.

So why would the SUS be bad? I mean I have it? But if you think I should not take it then I wil take your advise.

Thanks! :-)

[forestcall]

Sorry man, but that cycle sucks!

Diet is 88% of the equation, you are just asking for trouble and more side effects with a crappy diet

Cyp should be shot twice a week and takes anywhere from 6-8 weeks to fully kick in so you have not enough

Although for TRT purposes sust can be shot once a week or even less freq., for BB purposes to keep blood levels stable, it SHOULD be shot EOD to also take advantage of the quicker esters if not then you levels with roller coaster

Go check out the diet forum and see how you can better adjust your eating.
there are many bodybuilders in China, so don't use the excuse that you can't eat right. If you don't have the dedication to eat correctly, you really shouldn't be using AAS

WELCOME TO AR

Hi-

I agree 100%

Other than the forced China dinners I will eat a proper diet :-)
Disapline is my strong point.

I will try and order some gear and see if I can up my dose. I am guessing I can have it mailed to Thailand and then my friend can forward to me in China.

IF I can not get more gear would it hurt to just use the CYP and SUS I have??

Thanks!!!

[SMAN12b]

Hi-

I agree 100%

Other than the forced China dinners I will eat a proper diet :-)
Disapline is my strong point.

I will try and order some gear and see if I can up my dose. I am guessing I can have it mailed to Thailand and then my friend can forward to me in China.

IF I can not get more gear would it hurt to just use the CYP and SUS I have??

Thanks!!!

If you do it incorrectly YES it could hurt you! What exactly are your goals for this cycle, and what do you have for PCT recovery?

[forestcall]

If you do it incorrectly YES it could hurt you! What exactly are your goals for this cycle, and what do you have for PCT recovery?

PCT? Nothing unless I am able to order something.

Lets assume I have a good diet.

How about i spread the CYP over 8 weeks at 200mg a week-
Ditch the SUS I guess from what all say here....

My goal is not to get BIG- I am mainly trying to get ready for a world-champion qualifying event in Australlia for "adventrure racing". So I am trying to get to a 6 min mile running pace for 26+ miles, 120 miles of biking and 6 mile swim in about 8 hrs. total. So in general I have to exercise about 6 hrs a day with 1 or 2 days of 8-10 hrs. For the next 4 months.

Lifting weight is important to me but only 4 days a week.

So in general endurance training.

Thanks!!!

[Bigmax]

Bro you will only shut down your hpta system with that dose....you dont havr pct????you dont need to do anything without it....In other words you're looking to fu*k yourself up!!!!shut down your system then you dont even have anything to start it back up!!!!!...do more reading and learning about AAS....please take my advise.

[SMAN12b]

Don't even think about injecting or taking ANY AAS without PCT unless you never want another hard on again!!!!!!!

NO PCT=NO CYCLE

[forestcall]

Bro you will only shut down your hpta system with that dose....you dont havr pct????you dont need to do anything without it....In other words you're looking to fu*k yourself up!!!!shut down your system then you dont even have anything to start it back up!!!!!...do more reading and learning about AAS....please take my advise.

Hmm ok :-)

If I order some gear-

What would be a good cycle for endurance training? I want some muscle mass. But goal is dense hard muscle to sustain my body for 8+ hrs of all out cardio.

I am getting the point. Everyone here has been very helpful. I will not take any of the gear I currently have.

So please list the ideal cycle for 10 weeks- Like list gear and timing.

Thanks!!!!

[forestcall]

Don't even think about injecting or taking ANY AAS without PCT unless you never want another hard on again!!!!!!!

NO PCT=NO CYCLE

I have read this about TEST but in all honesty I have never taken any PCT-

I have sex about 6 days a week :-) I am like a walking hard-on :-)

I agree on getting a better cycle and hopefuly will get some advice on a good gear for an endurance cycle.

But just for discussion sake....If I took 200mg per week of CYP for 8 weeks would I screw my body up?

Also what is a good PCT in pill form?

Thanks!

[pdog80]

I don't care if you have sex all the time. Test shuts down your HPTA. You really need to do research on PCT. Also, if you don't PCT properly, you'll lose most if not all your gains from your cycle. Also, how is doing 8+hours of cardio in a day going to help you gain any muscle while your on your cycle? That's right it's not. It seems as though you think that AAS is some miracle drug that will add pounds of muscle if you exercise hard enough. Wrong! AAS only works if you......1. have proper diet 2. workout routine is correct 3. Use proper amounts 4. Do proper PCT. You know what, it's better that you don't do any AAS right now.

[forestcall]

I don't care if you have sex all the time. Test shuts down your HPTA. You really need to do research on PCT. Also, if you don't PCT properly, you'll lose most if not all your gains from your cycle. Also, how is doing 8+hours of cardio in a day going to help you gain any muscle while your on your cycle? That's right it's not. It seems as though you think that AAS is some miracle drug that will add pounds of muscle if you exercise hard enough. Wrong! AAS only works if you......1. have proper diet 2. workout routine is correct 3. Use proper amounts 4. Do proper PCT. You know what, it's better that you don't do any AAS right now.

I think I need to repost with a slightly different question-

I understand the danger of PCT and appreciate your advice.

But I must say you very wrong about 8hrs a day of cardio not gaining muscle.
I get very thin and lose much muscle. But what happens is I get very dense hard muscle. I am able to go longer distance. I can handle more stress on my joints, my wrists are stronger when biking 200-300 miles. I can push thru the fatigue. The list goes on in terms of benefits. So maybe not a mircle but overall improvement. THen when I come off and take a urine test to qualify for a championship I come in the top ten racers (or so I hope).
So if I mix 4 weight days into my week and eat hordes of protien and proper diet I see some good muscle gains. Musle gains for an endurnace athlete is MUCH MUCH different than for a Body builder.

So hope you get my meaning now :-)

Thanks!

[Bigmax]

I think I need to repost with a slightly different question-

I understand the danger of PCT and appreciate your advice.

But I must say you very wrong about 8hrs a day of cardio not gaining muscle.
I get very thin and lose much muscle. But what happens is I get very dense hard muscle. I am able to go longer distance. I can handle more stress on my joints, my wrists are stronger when biking 200-300 miles. I can push thru the fatigue. The list goes on in terms of benefits. So maybe not a mircle but overall improvement. THen when I come off and take a urine test to qualify for a championship I come in the top ten racers (or so I hope).
So if I mix 4 weight days into my week and eat hordes of protien and proper diet I see some good muscle gains. Musle gains for an endurnace athlete is MUCH MUCH different than for a Body builder.

So hope you get my meaning now :-)

Thanks!

Hey bro ..i agree with what you're saying cause and only you know what you're looking for when it comes down to what you're looking for out of a cycle.Also you know what works for you.you get guys like the one you just answered that dont have a clue what they are talking about.They see things from just one perspective...bodybuilding ...we all know that AAS are not used by BBers only....they are prevalent in almost every sport today.You keep doing what you're doing...unfortunately i have to stay with the decision that until you have a full cycle and pct wait!!!!

[forestcall]

Hey bro ..i agree with what you're saying cause and only you know what you're looking for when it comes down to what you're looking for out of a cycle.Also you know what works for you.you get guys like the one you just answered that dont have a clue what they are talking about.They see things from just one perspective...bodybuilding ...we all know that AAS are not used by BBers only....they are prevalent in almost every sport today.You keep doing what you're doing...unfortunately i have to stay with the decision that until you have a full cycle and pct wait!!!!

Hey man! Cool post :-)

I actually like bodybuilding. I have even gotten up to 400lb bench of 8 reps.
But I really love endurance sports and adrenaline sports. AAS are incredible for adrenaline and endurance sports! Mtn Bikers who ride single track and have to first ride up hill 25 miles or so before the god single track starts know the power and benefits of AAS. I love having incredible strength when Mtn Biking becuase I can do huge jumps and ride very fast downhill with faster refelx response times. Also when I wipe out and eat dirt I can get up immediatly and keep riding with almost NO pain or injury! In like 10 years I have not injured myself beyond a few broken ribs or stiches. So yeah AAS are pretty cool if you take care of your body.

One important factoid...atleast for me. Meditation of 2+ 15min sessions per day and proper breathing will decrease possible injury. Also visualizing emotions helps to STOP roid rage. I never become angry becasue I have learned to walk around my anger in my mind as if the anger were an object. So when the anger comes up I sense the feeling and in a split second visulize the anger, walk around it like a wooden table. I even admire the anger and the power it has over me if I let it go crazy. But the end result is the anger makes so many problems that it is best to tell the anger thanks, but no thanks! Takes practice but at some point it becomes easy.

Helps with combat wresteling or I guess the sport is called Ultimate Fighting. When someone punches me and breaks a rip or cuts my face, etc. I can mellow myself out and push past the pain to kick his ass :-)

Okay enough blabber :-) Cool group :-) Just need to relize the world is full of people.