Winny question for 1st timer? Help!

[Ddub]

Got a buddy that wants to take a low dose of winny. He is wanting to cut but put on lean muscle as well. What would be the ideal dosage and what would be good to stack with it? Don't know his stats tho!

[FranKieC]

If he is looking to cut he should get his diet and cardio routine in check first. AAS do not burn fat with the exception of a few. I would run the winnie at 50-100mgs ED with some test Prop and some Clen or an ECA stack.

[AleX-69]

a buddy, huh-...? If you can't answer the most important questions (age, training exp, cycles, BF, weight....) i highly doubt anyone can give you an accurate answer to your question..

In general, it is always wiser to run a injectable compound (test prop for example) as those tend to have lesser side effects than orals. Moreover AAS do not shed BF, maybe they assist in the process due to AR-mediated mechanisms, but the do not burn bodyfat directly. If i were you... - ehm...- him of course, i would run low dose of test to preserve muscle mass until he gets in the bodyfat range of 9-10%.. From then on i think winny can really shine.

[Ddub]

His diet and cardio is good, he was wanting me to try and help him out with a cycle, and I wasn't sure bout a cuttin cycle, never have had to do one

[clozr]

Tell your buddy that there is this killer site where he can get advice, do research, and find all sorts of helpful resources about AAS. Here is the link:

http://www.anabolicreview.com

[FranKieC]

One of the biggest misconceptions to "Younger" less researched AAS users is that winnie will "Shred" You. Winnie will give you a hard dry look which can be misconstrued.

[bryan702]

help me out want to start new cycle i have test cip, and stanol v, im 24 220lb 6'2" this will be my 6th cycle

hook me up with a good cycle??

[bryan702]

ive only done cycles with test of course & deca & winny oral never vial so help he out

[Ddub]

probably 6'1, around 210, 27 age, bf 12%, hes going to take some winny around 25 to 50 ed and probably a test en or cyp, I just don't know what to tell him that would be ideal

[Dangerdan]

help me out want to start new cycle i have test cip, and stanol v, im 24 220lb 6'2" this will be my 6th cycle

hook me up with a good cycle??

[FranKieC]

help me out want to start new cycle i have test cip, and stanol v, im 24 220lb 6'2" this will be my 6th cycle

hook me up with a good cycle??

Bro it's really disrespectful to Hijack somebody elses thread. I would suggest starting your own thread in this forum.

[AleX-69]

how many cycles has he done already?..

As a general guideline i would build up his cycle like this (if it is up to his 3rd cycle):

1-12 Test En or cyp 500mg Week (to preserve muscle mass)
7-12 Winny 50mg ED
15-18 PCT

Maybe he should also consider an aromatase ihibitor like Ari or letro..

and bryan plz don't hijack this thread. open up your own.

[FranKieC]

He can also run Propinate instead of the enthanate

[AleX-69]

that indeed would be preferable!..

[Ddub]

thanks for the info, just curious why to start the winny half way into the cycle of test?

Maybe he should also consider an aromatase ihibitor like Ari or letro..
During the cycle or the pct

[Ddub]

he doesnt have access to prop, only en and cyp

[AleX-69]

thanks for the info, just curious why to start the winny half way into the cycle of test?

well i suppose when he is 6 weeks into his cycle he will have lost a considerable amount of bodyfat already. When winny is taken at relativley low BF its hardening effects are really visible.

Maybe he should also consider an aromatase ihibitor like Ari or letro..
During the cycle or the pct

On cyle. to limit bloat from test E...

[Ddub]

good enough, thats why I am here is to ask and learn myself

[AleX-69]

good attitude!

[FranKieC]

Don't ever be afraid to ask..I would recomend reading this forum and using the search feature and then if you still have ?'s hit us back

[Ddub]

what would be the negatives of starting the winny with the test

and whats the logic behind taking test with winny

[SwoleCat]

Tell him to get his ass here to sign up if he wants to show any respect for his health/body, this telephone game shit is b.s.

~SC~