EQ and T Bol

**Farhan** · 07-26-2006, 06:07 PM

Im done with test
Its proven that test doesnt work for me (no gaines)
Ive tryed 2 test cycle's and they didnt do anything for me; however i got all of the sides(thinin hair, large amounts of acne, extra hair all over my body)
Ive posted pics of all of my gear and it seems to be REAL
My friends and I bought all the gear off of the same supplyer and the gear worked for him and he also had a shitty diet which consisted of 2-3 meals a day, lack of sleep, traning 3 times a week and lots of drinking

I eat A LOT, as much as i can and its clean food
I was intaking 3000 calories a day when on my cycle(500mg test)
I sleep at least 8 hours a day, i train 5 days a week

So i decided i want to do an EQ and T Bol cycle, if you want to flame go right a head

How much Eq should i be taking per week and how many mg's of T bol should i be taking a day?
Also what should my pct consist of

Im 22, 6'1 205 pounds

Let me know
Thanks guys

**Liftnainez** · 07-26-2006, 06:32 PM

weeks 1-12 or even 15 EQ @ 600-800 mg
weeks 1-6 tbol @50mg per day
or you can end off running the tbol from weeks 12-18..
change the numbers to what fits you

**tonytone** · 07-26-2006, 07:27 PM

i find it hard to believe that test did not benefit you at all....

**wolfyEVH** · 07-26-2006, 07:33 PM

what makes you think those will work if the test didnt???

and more importantly, you're not blaming your 3000 cal diet and working out 5 days a week??? too low cals for someone your stats and too much training i bet

**STYLE74** · 07-26-2006, 07:40 PM

What do you guys think of turanabol...do you like it and what does it stack good with?

**Farhan** · 07-26-2006, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by tonytone

i find it hard to believe that test did not benefit you at all....

My friends are saying the same thing, and soo are my supplyers
i get the sides, just not the size not do I even get the pumps and strengh

what makes you think those will work if the test didnt???

Ive taken d bol, drol and m1t a few years back and those worked like a charm but i dont plan on useing those as a cycle ever again

Im estimating my calorie intake, could have been more, could have been less

Ive just had enough of this and want to move on, I know with every cycle test is a must but in this case it doesnt do anything for me
Im sick and tired of getting all of the sides

**Johny-too-small** · 07-26-2006, 09:11 PM

Im 13 days in on a 60 mg/ed tbol cycle. I am getting stronger all around, and waiting for the gains to come. I understand that the third week is the golden time for it to start kicking..Ill keep in touch

**Farhan** · 07-26-2006, 09:16 PM

cool, are you stacking it with anything else?

Also, should i shoot Eq twice a week like i would with test?

**Farhan** · 07-27-2006, 04:30 AM

Also, what should my pct look like?

**2.minutes** · 07-27-2006, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Farhan

cool, are you stacking it with anything else?

Also, should i shoot Eq twice a week like i would with test?

yeah twice a week is ideal

and for the PCT post ur cycle in the pct forum, stocky121 will be happy to help

**Johny-too-small** · 07-27-2006, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Farhan

cool, are you stacking it with anything else?

Also, should i shoot Eq twice a week like i would with test?

No. This is #1. I am keeping it simple, in mind with my goals. Just so you know my pct is as follows:

pc week 1-3: Nolva 20 mg/ed
pc week 1-2: Clomid 50 mg/ed

I am being very cautious on the pct IMO. I dont think I really need the Clomid but better safe than sorry.

**clements22** · 07-28-2006, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Farhan

Im done with test
Its proven that test doesnt work for me (no gaines)
Ive tryed 2 test cycle's and they didnt do anything for me; however i got all of the sides(thinin hair, large amounts of acne, extra hair all over my body)
Ive posted pics of all of my gear and it seems to be REAL
My friends and I bought all the gear off of the same supplyer and the gear worked for him and he also had a shitty diet which consisted of 2-3 meals a day, lack of sleep, traning 3 times a week and lots of drinking

I eat A LOT, as much as i can and its clean food
I was intaking 3000 calories a day when on my cycle(500mg test)
I sleep at least 8 hours a day, i train 5 days a week

So i decided i want to do an EQ and T Bol cycle, if you want to flame go right a head

How much Eq should i be taking per week and how many mg's of T bol should i be taking a day?
Also what should my pct consist of

Im 22, 6'1 205 pounds

Let me know
Thanks guys

im in my 8th week almost of sust and ive only lost weight/bf and im taking tbol with it and tbol isnt doing much for me...my metabolism feel like its through the roof

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-28-2006, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

weeks 1-12 or even 15 EQ @ 600-800 mg
weeks 1-6 tbol @50mg per day
or you can end off running the tbol from weeks 12-18..
change the numbers to what fits you

I like the dosages^^^^

If it was me I would run Tbol to week 8, just about when the Eq gains really start to show.

**Farhan** · 07-28-2006, 08:46 PM

Is it safe to take an oral for 8 weeks though?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-28-2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Farhan

Is it safe to take an oral for 8 weeks though?

Tbol isnt very liver toxic....like baby food.

I ran it solo for 6 weeks had bloodwork everything perfect.

2 weeks ago I just got done running var/tbol 12 weeks then winstrol for around 8 weeks. No problems.

Oral toxicity is VERY OVERRATED!

If you use resonable doses no worrys.

**shortie** · 07-28-2006, 08:49 PM

Break your oral into two batches, run it weeks 1-4 then the last four weeks right up to PCT, or run it all 8 weeks right up to PCT. Using EQ you are going to have a fair amount of time off between last inject and PCT, using your oral at the end will keep you going and not have such a large dead spot.

**Farhan** · 07-28-2006, 08:51 PM

thats good info
thanx guys

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-28-2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by shortie

Break your oral into two batches, run it weeks 1-4 then the last foru weeks right up to PCT, or run it all 8 weeks right up to PCT. Using EQ you are going to have a fair amount of time off between last inject and PCT, using your oral at the end will keep you going and not have such a large dead spot.

If your going to run it for 4 weeks at the begining & end find a oral like dbol not tbol. 4 weeks of tbol is worthless , because tbol gains just usually start at week 3.....well they did for me.

**shortie** · 07-28-2006, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

If your going to run it for 4 weeks at the begining & end find a oral like dbol not tbol. 4 weeks of tbol is worthless , because tbol gains just usually start at week 3.....well they did for me.

Run at the right doses(for me about 100mg ed)Tbol is very effective quickly IMO. As for running it split into two 4 weekers, that is simply to put something on the end so he doesn't have huge deadspot before PCT, but I did also note he could just count back 8 weeks from when PCT would begin and run it from there, which is actually what I would do.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-28-2006, 10:58 PM

Equipoise takes a long time to kick in

Jumpstart it with tbol.

**shortie** · 07-28-2006, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Equipoise takes a long time to kick in

True, but it also takes awhile to diminish for PCT-The no mans land between last inject and PCT is the part of a cycle I hate the most, but really it's personal preference, Kick start or use it as a finish, all up to the individual.

**Liftnainez** · 07-28-2006, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Tbol isnt very liver toxic....like baby food.

I ran it solo for 6 weeks had bloodwork everything perfect.

2 weeks ago I just got done running var/tbol 12 weeks then winstrol for around 8 weeks. No problems.

Oral toxicity is VERY OVERRATED!

If you use resonable doses no worrys.

hellmask how did the cycle end up? Weight gain? Strength gain? more lean?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-28-2006, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

hellmask how did the cycle end up? Weight gain? Strength gain? more lean?

PM sent.

**magic32** · 07-28-2006, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Farhan

Im done with test
Its proven that test doesnt work for me (no gaines)
I was intaking 3000 calories
Im 22, 6'1 205 pounds

This explains some of it. Based on your profile, that figure is too close to maintenance.

But you should be less concerned with overall calories and more with your daily protein intake. This is invaluable in building new satellites and red bcs. Though created for weight gain, aas are for protein anabolism, and this is where the bb'er gets his desired effect. Do you recall the protein mgs in your cycles?

On the Tbol/EQ:
I'd also split the orals (early/late) at proper dosages. Generally Tbol is pretty quick, but as indicated by Mask, everyone is different.

M.

**Farhan** · 07-29-2006, 12:07 AM

I was averaging about 300-350 grams of protein ed

on the other hand my friends were gaining and not consuming as many calories or protein as me

**LeDias** · 07-29-2006, 12:45 AM

My advice... except for tbol as I don't have any experience with so I just repeat what Liftnainez said as he is a knowledgeable person:

Weeks 1-6 tbol 50mg/ED
Weeks 1-12 Eq 400/600mg/Week
Weeks 1-12 Proviron 50mg/ED

PCT
Week 13 40mg Nolvadex & 150mg Clomid ED
Week 14 30mg Nolvadex & 100mg Clomid ED
Week 15 20mg Nolvadex & 50mg Clomid ED

But sure it will be better to have test in every cycle...

**Liftnainez** · 07-29-2006, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by LeDias

My advice... except for tbol as I don't have any experience with so I just repeat what Liftnainez said as he is a knowledgeable person:
Weeks 1-6 tbol 50mg/ED
Weeks 1-12 Eq 400/600mg/Week
Weeks 1-10 Proviron 50mg/ED

PCT
Week 13 40mg Nolvadex & 150mg Clomid ED
Week 14 30mg Nolvadex & 100mg Clomid ED
Week 15 20mg Nolvadex & 50mg Clomid ED

But sure it will be better to have test in every cycle...

thanks for the props.. and yea that cycle looks very good to me.. I have used tbol on more than one ocassion and it is a GREAT, VERSATILE compound.. can be used for any goal you want- either bulking or cutting.. I dont use clomid in pct though.. that stuff can pose dangerous sides and is pretty much out dated... imo..