cycle help!

[Beefyman]

As of now i was going to take (Dbal bol?) one of those but i just found out that i need some stuff called PCT and i will order it and now i need to know what stuff would the experinced guys/girls think i should take for my first cycle... thanks please don't flame me i am just telling you guys what i am looking for i know i am new but when i get into somthing i take it all the way...
Kale told me to make a new thread asking advice so here i am (Thanks kale)

[tobetutz]

First start with your stats, what are they?

[getpumped24]

you need to do a lot more research before considering cycle. what r your stats(age, height, weight, years training)? d bol alone is a waist.

[davedizzle]

As of now i was going to take (Dbal bol?) one of those but i just found out that i need some stuff called PCT and i will order it and now i need to know what stuff would the experinced guys/girls think i should take for my first cycle... thanks please don't flame me i am just telling you guys what i am looking for i know i am new but when i get into somthing i take it all the way...
Kale told me to make a new thread asking advice so here i am (Thanks kale)

Yah Basically dude it sounds like you need to hold off on the roids for a while and start doing some research!
You just admitted you hadn't even heard about PCT.. the most important part of a cycle!!!

Dbol only is a very bad idea, gains are very hard to keep.

Let's have some stats - Age, weight, height, training experience

What's your diet like, how many meals a day and what foods?

Dizzle

[Beefyman]

Okay i am 27age, 6'FT, 250lbs, I have been lifting since i was 16 and it seems like i am not gaining anymore mass odd thing is i eat really good i have a about 6 meals a day breakfast is normal eggs about 7 (no yoke), snack.. apple orange and a 20gram P shake, lunch prob two sandwiches of some kind Tuna turkey ham... greens, snack... salads anykind, dinner steak salmon... white fishmeat, sushi greens.... night time snack prob cherrys or strawberrys... this is just what i have been doing for about 3 months foods change i mean everyone once a week i will eat some Mcdonalds and stuff but not alot at all... i jog about every other day for 20~30min i am a big guy so i have a harder time running as long as some of you guys lift 5 days a week
back/bies chest/tries legs/shoulders and every week i will do like a ALL bicep or ALL chest or ALL lets ect... for 1 day out of that week i am a active member at belly total fitness gotta love that steamroom!

I know i suck at spelling

[davedizzle]

Well dude it sounds like you're ready to join the darkside but you need to start researching. Your diet could do with some improvements (Visit diet forum).
Forget the Dbol only, if you're going to take AAS, injections are the way to go.

Everyone will suggest for you first cycle you take 500mg of testosterone enanthate for 10 - 12 weeks divided into 2 weekly shots of 250mg.

Check this thread for newbie cycles and most importantly; PCT information!
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

Dizzle

[getpumped24]

do some more research, stats are pretty good. you need test for 1st cycle.

[Beefyman]

Thanks guys i just got home from the store and i will check out that link
and thanks for the comp getpumped

[kloter1]

you need to do some serious researching. i read up on steroids and pct for more than a year before i started..

[SwoleCat]

That diet is horrid, and if you cannot gain naturally you aren't going to gain enhanced for damn sure. Running is also a horrid idea when trying to add mass.

More research and attention to diet, forget AAS completely.

~SC~

[fanatic]

Agreed, you really need to do more research before you even consider running ANY AAS.

[Beefyman]

okay i ordered some PCT and nolva and have not had any luck on finding "Test E" but am looking thanks for all the help so far

[Beefyman]

Is this right will i need 5000 - 6000mgs of Test E(Inj 2 times a week for 10-12weeks), PCT ?Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL? (12days after my last shot) And Nolva Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL (a week into my cycle) IS this good???? please get me back thanks!

I can't find L-dex can someone post a link on where i can read about it thanks!!

[Kale]

Is this right will i need 5000 - 6000mgs of Test E(Inj 2 times a week for 10-12weeks), PCT ?Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL? (12days after my last shot) And Nolva Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL (a week into my cycle) IS this good???? please get me back thanks!

I can't find L-dex can someone post a link on where i can read about it thanks!!

Those numbers are more or less right, let me lay it out a bit more simply

wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/week shot 250mg on Monday and Thursday
wk 1-12 L-Dex 0.25mg ED


PCT

Starts 14 Days after your last shot of Test E

Day 1-31 Clomid 100mg ED Nolvadex 20md ED L-Dex 0.25 mg ED

Here is a link for you to buy the L-Dex http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...3ee78003c6037a

[Beefyman]

Those numbers are more or less right, let me lay it out a bit more simply

wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/week shot 250mg on Monday and Thursday
wk 1-12 L-Dex 0.25mg ED


PCT

Starts 14 Days after your last shot of Test E

Day 1-31 Clomid 100mg ED Nolvadex 20md ED L-Dex 0.25 mg ED

Here is a link for you to buy the L-Dex http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...3ee78003c6037a

i checked and seen what you said
Will these work???? Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL??? for a ANTI est???
and i this work??? Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL for a PCT??? this too
LiquiDex 30mL 1mg/mL How long will they last me (should i buy a few)? and how many times should i take it a week and are they inject???? so i can buy some needles??? Thanks everyone
And Thanks Kale!

i was just lost because i ordered clomi and tamox last night so i just wanted to know

[Kale]

i checked and seen what you said
Will these work???? Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL??? for a ANTI est???
and i this work??? Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL for a PCT??? this too
LiquiDex 30mL 1mg/mL How long will they last me (should i buy a few)? and how many times should i take it a week and are they inject???? so i can buy some needles??? Thanks everyone
And Thanks Kale!

i was just lost because i ordered clomi and tamox last night so i just wanted to know

The Clomi, Tamox and liquidex are all oral. They MUST NOT be injected !!! Buy a syringe and measure it and fire it in your mouth with that

For PCT you need 100mg of Clomi a day so thats just on 3 ml per day so for 31 days you will need 93ml so you need two bottles of that.

The Tamox you need 20mg so thats 1 ml a day so one bottle is enough. The Liquidex you need 1/4 ml a day so you have shitloads in one bottle.

[getpumped24]

just run 500mg test e or c wk (inj.twice a wk.) for 10 wks. you should hold off for a while until you do more research. your diet will need some help too. 5000+ calories, 300-400g protein, 100-150g good fat. no McDonald's!! eat clean like: oats, rice, baked potatoes, ff cottage cheese, olive oil, ff yogurt, natty p. butter, fruits & veggies, fish, nuts, 96/4 beef, chicken, you get the idea. lots of natty p. butter works best for gaining weight for me. i eat 3-5 lbs a wk. i just run 10mg ed tamox thru cycle for gyno & 40mg ed for PCT. 150mg ed clomi 1st wk of PCT & 50mg ed for another 2 wks. 1g tribulus won't hurt either. listen to what everybody says, this is a great place to learn.

[Beefyman]

just a stupid question but how but i seen this on a link on someones account called a scource check but i clicked on it and said i was banned from that part or something like that

okay guys here is what i am going to do!!!

-Start week one
500mg of Test e 250Mond 250tues
1ML Tamox every day
Liguidex 1/4 ML

same for 9 more weeks then
14 days after my last shot i start doing
PCT

PCT for 31 days
CLOMI 3 ML per day


Is this right??