Why do you lose gains?

**DevilDog** · 06-25-2002, 12:54 PM

Lets say you do a cycle of 10 weeks as follows

week 1-4 dbol at 40 mg
week 1-10 test at 500mg
week 1-10 deca at 300-400 mg

Never having done this cycle, I imagine that you would get great gains initially as the dbol kicks off the cycle. Since the dbol is only taken weeks 1-4, should anything be taken at the end of the 4th week, such as hcg , to minimize loss of gains.

Also, let suppose I do this cycle (my second). I've been working out hard for 2 years, and not so hard for 3 years before that and I'm 6'3, 238, 10% BF. With a solid diet of 5000+ calories, good rest, mind blowing workouts, and starting clomid therapy at the appropriate time, why wouldnt you keep almost all of your gains (minus the water weight)?

**foreverblast1** · 06-25-2002, 01:39 PM

cuz you ain't got the roids in you like you did while you were on a cycle..

having that extra 800mg of foreign substance in your body each week makes a world of difference...

**Buddha_Red** · 06-25-2002, 02:47 PM

And sometimes i think some people include water weight in their "gains"

but foreverblast is also correct

**Nathan** · 06-25-2002, 02:59 PM

I would personally say that the vast majority of the lost gains are completely the fault of CYCLEON. I'm not sure how he does it but I recommend keeping an eye on him.

**PURE ADRENALINE** · 06-25-2002, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by foreverblast1
cuz you ain't got the roids in you like you did while you were on a cycle..

having that extra 800mg of foreign substance in your body each week makes a world of difference...

**PURE ADRENALINE** · 06-25-2002, 05:27 PM

Why wouldn’t you keep almost all of your gains (minus the water weight)? [/B][/QUOTE]

That is the key right there bro.

I personally do not put a shit load of faith in a scale I go by the mirror!

And most "lost" gains I think are purely water loss.

Think about it you can't build tissue during a cycle just to lose it in a few days or weeks. The pump look and water retention look may dissipate but not any actually lean muscle mass!!!

Just IMHO of course.

**rexflexall** · 06-25-2002, 05:29 PM

**DevilDog** · 06-25-2002, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by PURE ADRENALINE
most "lost" gains I think are purely water loss.

Think about it you can't build tissue during a cycle just to lose it in a few days or weeks. The pump look and water retention look may dissipate but not any actually lean muscle mass!!!

Thats what I was thinking.

**Swoldier** · 06-25-2002, 07:52 PM

The key to keeping gains is DIET. Plain and simple.

Swol

**BullDogg20** · 06-25-2002, 09:57 PM

I think most losses are water as well and most lean muscle losses is due to lack of diet or inproper nutriton and the lack of working outwith less intesity!

if u just loose everything after u stop taking the roids it honestly makes roids pointless to take unless you want to take them for the rest of your life!!!!!