Test Prop Only??

[rille603]

Hi my question is can i gain muscle or keep alot of the gains from test prop only if i have done 5 cycles before 2 of them cycle with deca and winstrol and the last one test and deca and winstrol.
I have always used cypionate 500mg week.
Test prop 300mg week 8week cycle 0,5mg adex eod???

[shortie]

Yes, you can still get gains from a prop only cycle. But you may want to up your doses a bit, even with ester wieght figured in you are running quite a bit less than you already have. I would go 500-600/wk if it were me. The Adex dose should be more than sufficient unless you are very gyno prone.

[marcus300]

keeeping gains are not detirmine form which test your taking, gains are kept by proper pct and a dedicated bodybuilding lifestyle food,training,sleeping.

I would also up the dose 75 -100 ED

[BigMaus]

I would stack it.
Prop only isnt that great imo.

Yo Marcus, almost 4000 posts!
Do you get a golden watch or something?

[rille603]

Ok thx but i am very gyno prone have done i surgery already so im pretty scared to get it back but i have never tried prop.
How long after a cycle do think i nessecesary to wait before next cycle?

[Bigmax]

I would stack it.
Prop only isnt that great imo.

Yo Marcus, almost 4000 posts!
Do you get a golden watch or something?

Thats your opinion and thats purely respected..however i dont agree with it.test prop is a great AAS and can be used in an array of ways...this depend on the individual and how he uses it.

[BigMaus]

Ok, fair.
But did you do a prop only cycle?

In my opinion there are always better results when you stack different aas.

[MrMeathead]

Ok, fair.
But did you do a prop only cycle?

In my opinion there are always better results when you stack different aas.

I have done a test prop only cycle and had incredible gains and soo have some of my best friends. The first recommended cycle by everybody on this forum is test enan. or cyp. only. Test is test and it is all the same soo for somebody to do a prop only cycle it would be no different other than the amount of injections and the half life.

[Duke of Earl]

Test is best & prop is the sh!t IMO - i prefer it with var or tbol, but it's pretty darn good on it's own too ( esp with an AI )

[BigMaus]

Agree gentlemen, prop is the sh*t!
Still i would stack it.

[Xtralarg]

Ive had great gains from prop only cycles. It boils down to how it works for the individual though. Obviously if you stack it with compounds such as tren and masteron the gains will, or at least should be better. The best thing is to try it and see if it works for you!

[Bigmax]

Ok, fair.
But did you do a prop only cycle?

In my opinion there are always better results when you stack different aas.

I absolutely have...otherwise i wouldve never said anything...i speak from experience and i can say that doing prop by itself can will be beneficial as lonas the ntrition and traing in on.

[Bigmax]

double post

[BigMaus]

I absolutely have...otherwise i wouldve never said anything...i speak from experience and i can say that doing prop by itself can will be beneficial as lonas the ntrition and traing in on.

Ok, experience than!
So when you dont stack it, you run it higher than normal?

[cfiler]

Prop is awesome. Keepable gains are definately obtainable with proper PCT and a good diet.

[cfiler]

I would keep the dosage, but prime the test prop at the start of the cycle.

[stitch1967]

I would keep the dosage, but prime the test prop at the start of the cycle.

would you expound on this please for us in the "back of the class"....I'm thinking about a prop/var cycle soon and am finding this interesting

[magic32]

'Priming' is a technique used pre-cycle, run some searches it's worth learning about.

M.

[stitch1967]

'Priming' is a technique used pre-cycle, run some searches it's worth learning about.

M.

Thx...but I was also wondering why he suggested lowering the weekly dose of prop to 300mg when the previous cycle with the long ester was at 500mg...and the "priming"...I'll do a search for it

[rille603]

Is it big gyno chances with propp or less then cypionate

[mwolffey]

Is it big gyno chances with propp or less then cypionate

id say probably the same because all test aromatizes, but however with prop you have more stable blood levels of test because of the ed injections, so there for you should have a more stable level of estrogen than with cyp or e

[Swifto]

id say probably the same because all test aromatizes, but however with prop you have more stable blood levels of test because of the ed injections, so there for you should have a more stable level of estrogen than with cyp or e

Using Test Prop will keep blood plasma levels more stable than a single estered Test, like Enan or Cyp, yes. But does this matter when worrying about gyno. I guess if Testosterone levels fluctuate, then so will estrogen...Right?

In theory, with Test Prop being stronger per 1ML, than its familly members, Enan and Cyp, gyno could be more of a problem. More Test = Higher estrogen.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...?

Why not invest in an AI?

[mwolffey]

Using Test Prop will keep blood plasma levels more stable than a single estered Test, like Enan or Cyp, yes. But does this matter when worrying about gyno. I guess if Testosterone levels fluctuate, then so will estrogen...Right?

In theory, with Test Prop being stronger per 1ML, than its familly members, Enan and Cyp, gyno could be more of a problem. More Test = Higher estrogen.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...?

Why not invest in an AI?

this is true....totally agreed...arimidex or letro should help and solve any issues

[rise2gr8ness]

i have gained over 30lbs from using test prop and a little tren for about 5 weeks!! ( i only used the tren for 4 weeks)

I got a little fat, don't get me wrong, but the tren was so harsh on my appitite I had to turn to more dense caloric alternatives.

I am pretty good at cutting so its just more cardio to me!!

But the prop should start at 75mg the first shot then 100mg for a while and if its not doing the job move it closer to 150mg eod.

train heavy and keep constant tension on those muscle and you can gain like a mo fo in 5 weeks.

this go's without saying but eat like a horse, spend every last dime on food and make sure you have a steady fuc for those prop bonners

use avodart and an anti E and your future will be bright. (you'll be broke but you'll be huge)

last but not least try some digestive enzymes...wooo hooo its like magic, you can eat like a champ!!