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    NPP incorporated in Short Cycle

    All righty now, there is a lot of talk on short cycles on the board. As stated I'm interested in them and wanted to try NPP but wasn't sure of the half life of it.

    I'm not 100% sure if I am going to do the 2wks on 2wks off. I want to try this cycle but if the NPP has a longer half life then this might not work, which will make me shift to 4wks on 4wks off - which is fine for me.

    Here are the two cycles:
    2 wks:
    Day 1 200mg Test Prop
    200mg NPP
    100mg tren
    Day 2-14 100mg Test Prop 100mg NPP 50mg Tren
    Day 15 - 300mg clomid
    Day 16-30 50mg clomid

    4 wks:
    200mg Test Prop front loaded to 100mg/day
    200mg NPP front loaded to 100mg/day
    100mg Tren front loaded to 50mg/day

    Again, not sure if NPP will work as I can't find its half life. If need I can load that for wks 1 & 2 and by wk 4 be done.

    Let me know what you think...

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    i dont think the cycles good but nnp has something like a 5 day half life.

    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Nandrolone Phenylpropionate look here for info,id do a 4 week minimum and 6 max for a short cycle.

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    not sure about the half life but i felt the effect's wear off after about 3 day's on my last cycle, i'm thinking about throwing in some tren this time round on a 6 week cycle not for the full cycle though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helium3
    i dont think the cycles good but nnp has something like a 5 day half life.

    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Nandrolone Phenylpropionate look here for info,id do a 4 week minimum and 6 max for a short cycle.
    i think i'm leaning more to the 4wks myself as I will be able to use the NPP along with the test prop and tren .

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    i love npp...one of my favorite aas... eat clean with cardio and lots of protein and pack on good muscle with no bloat....pct is a mist with it tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    4 wks:
    200mg Test Prop front loaded to 100mg/day
    200mg NPP front loaded to 100mg/day
    100mg Tren front loaded to 50mg/day
    Let me know what you think...


    Good cycle!

    Keep us updated on your results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    4 wks:
    200mg Test Prop front loaded to 100mg/day
    200mg NPP front loaded to 100mg/day
    100mg Tren front loaded to 50mg/day

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    i wouldnt front load the above cycle, what is your cycle history and dosages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    i wouldnt front load the above cycle, what is your cycle history and dosages?

    so would you just get on with it then and not front load.

    dbol only pyramid up to 60mg day and back down for 8 wks -1 cycle
    test e 600mg/wk prop 100 e3d - 10wks - 2 cycles
    sust250 500mg wk 10wks 1 cycle

    last cycle was over a year ago

    current stats 208lbs 14-17%bf 6'1 30yrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by AleX-69


    Good cycle!

    Keep us updated on your results!
    thanks bro, we'll see when(if) it gets here

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    i dont think its a good idea to use that dose of tren with that dose of npp without atleast some caber... and a better idea to not do it at all but thats JMO

    i have used the both togetehr and will never do so again (tren e and deca )

    and why are you front loading short esters? because you only have 2 weeks?
    i think 4 weeks would be much much better because blood levels stable out at the peak around day 7-10 so after that is when you are getting optimal results.. but i dont know how frontloading would change that

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    so would you just get on with it then and not front load.

    dbol only pyramid up to 60mg day and back down for 8 wks -1 cycle
    test e 600mg/wk prop 100 e3d - 10wks - 2 cycles
    sust250 500mg wk 10wks 1 cycle

    last cycle was over a year ago

    current stats 208lbs 14-17%bf 6'1 30yrs
    No dont pyramid the dbol go straight into it with the short cycle, make sure you prime beforehand this will give you a great advantage when you do start the cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    i dont think its a good idea to use that dose of tren with that dose of npp without atleast some caber... and a better idea to not do it at all but thats JMO

    i have used the both togetehr and will never do so again (tren e and deca )

    and why are you front loading short esters? because you only have 2 weeks?
    i think 4 weeks would be much much better because blood levels stable out at the peak around day 7-10 so after that is when you are getting optimal results.. but i dont know how frontloading would change that
    appreciate your advise bro. umm caber, nvr heard of it. i've decided to take ppl's advise and go with the 4wk cycle. with the 4wk will not be front loading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    No dont pyramid the dbol go straight into it with the short cycle, make sure you prime beforehand this will give you a great advantage when you do start the cycle
    I was just answering your 1st question bro. I don't plan on using dbol in my 4wkr. I may after I do my first one. I will look into priming as you suggested.

    Been to England myself, beautiful country side.

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    cabergoline
    the way i would describe it is caber is to progesterone , what letro/armidex are to estrogen (they dont do their job in the same way but i mean AI = less estro, caber = less progest)

    witht he two 19-nors (tren and deca /npp) progesterone stimulation becomes as big of an issue as estrogen so it could be beneficial to use it with them in the same way you would sue an AI with test

    i have never used caber but i have some on my computer desk to use with my next cycle, after runnign deca and tren together i dont want to be anywhere near where i was on that cycle so i will only ever run one or the other (although including atleast 1 in each cycle) and never without caber

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    thanks bro, will look some of that up.

    by the way you have nice legs, lol. love your pumps

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    caber is expensive where I found it. I looked on ARR and didn't see it, can you pm.

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    also, I might just use 1 for the first and the other for the next and just switch back and forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    caber is expensive where I found it. I looked on ARR and didn't see it, can you pm.

    bump for 189

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    caber is expensive where I found it. I looked on ARR and didn't see it, can you pm.

    anyone care to help a brother out.....

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    i got you guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    i got you guy
    thanks bro, i sent you one back...

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