3rd Cycle, thoughts, suggestions, doses

**<Raven>** · 08-06-2006, 11:13 PM

Contemplating a third cycle. Previous were beginner cycle test alone second was a lean gain/cutting diet test/winny/t3.

Had an accident and lost over 50 lbs, spent my time recovering and now back super lean and hard @ 6 ft. 175 8.7%. Now I want to put some good weight back on.

Ideas:
Anavar /EQ/Test followed by proper pct (var little expensive)

Dbol /EQ/Test followed by proper pct (more economical)

Price is a factor but I'm open to any ideas, suggestions or variations. Keep in mind that my sources are limited to HG$$$, no access to vet/ug. I know it is advised to research on ones own and post a more detailed proposal but in this circumstance I have researched compounds but am more interested in putting together a proper stack. I like the limited sides, mild 17aa liver interaction and percentage of kept gains with var but am unsure if its worth the cost in comparison to a cycle boosted by an initial 4 weeks of more worrisome but economical dbol. Also with the experience of this board I'm completely open to throwing the whole cycle aside in exchange for a better one. Thanks all.

**briansauras** · 08-07-2006, 12:46 AM

wk1-10 100mg prop ED
wk1-9 75-100mg tren ED
wk5-pct 100mg winny ED

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 12:54 AM

weeks 1-12 test e
weeks 1-11 (12) eq
weeks 10-15 (16) winny/var/tbol

**briansauras** · 08-07-2006, 01:01 AM

I dont like the bloat from enth and I love the almost instant gains you achieve with short esters. I will never touch anything longer then PP again. Live and learn.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-07-2006, 01:56 AM

Test C 1-12 600mgs/week
Deca 1-11 600mgs/week
Tbol 1-6 50mgs/day

If I wanted weight gain thats what I would do.

**Kale** · 08-07-2006, 07:07 AM

Test P 1-5 100mg ED
Test E 1-12 500mg / Week
Deca 1-11 400mg/week
Var 9- Start of PCT 80mg ED

This is what I would do

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Test C 1-12 600mgs/week
Deca 1-11 600mgs/week
Tbol 1-6 50mgs/day

If I wanted weight gain thats what I would do.

love the avy bro

**tonytone** · 08-07-2006, 12:30 PM

well, you're pretty lean now, and after the accident im sure you're ready to put on a lot of mass..so i would go with

1-13 test c 600mg/wk
1-12 deca 400mg/wk
1-4 dbol 35-40 mg ED

test/deca/dbol is my fav all out bulker, and by using dbol you will save some $$

**<Raven>** · 08-07-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by tonytone

well, you're pretty lean now, and after the accident im sure you're ready to put on a lot of mass..so i would go with

1-13 test c 600mg/wk
1-12 deca 400mg/wk
1-4 dbol 35-40 mg ED

test/deca/dbol is my fav all out bulker, and by using dbol you will save some $$

No doubt bro, at my low point I had dropped all the way down to 165. Nerve damage is a bi%ch. The second that nerve severs all the muscles it controls just atrophy. In fact I almost need to put the mass on. I can't afford to keep buying new suits and clothes. I went from a tight 44L jacket, 17 1/2 in neck to a slim 42 15 in neck and my waist went from 34 to a 31. I've had to buy all new sh%t.

I see people out who havent seen me in 8 months and they don't even recognize me. To hell with that.

so far everyone has recommended something different. Two cycles have been recommended with test/deca and either tbol or dbol, I looked around for profiles on tbol but didnt find much. What are the big differences between the two? Some posts say they're almost identical with the exception that tbol doesn't aromatize like dbol.

Alot of you also seem to prefer throwing out the EQ for Deca, I've seen alot of guys use both, and everyone says they provide clean consistent and quality gains. But whats the logic in one over the other? I've heard worse about Deca's sides than those found with EQ.

Thanks again everyone

**mkrulic** · 08-07-2006, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by <Raven>

Contemplating a third cycle. Previous were beginner cycle test alone second was a lean gain/cutting diet test/winny/t3.

Had an accident and lost over 50 lbs, spent my time recovering and now back super lean and hard @ 6 ft. 175 8.7%. Now I want to put some good weight back on.

Ideas:
Anavar /EQ/Test followed by proper pct (var little expensive)

Dbol /EQ/Test followed by proper pct (more economical)

Price is a factor but I'm open to any ideas, suggestions or variations. Keep in mind that my sources are limited to HG$$$, no access to vet/ug. I know it is advised to research on ones own and post a more detailed proposal but in this circumstance I have researched compounds but am more interested in putting together a proper stack. I like the limited sides, mild 17aa liver interaction and percentage of kept gains with var but am unsure if its worth the cost in comparison to a cycle boosted by an initial 4 weeks of more worrisome but economical dbol. Also with the experience of this board I'm completely open to throwing the whole cycle aside in exchange for a better one. Thanks all.

If money is an issue I wouldnt run eq. there are other hormones that offer more bang for the buck

**6ft5** · 01-26-2010, 06:37 PM

Deca is bad ass for building muscles, w test of course. Keep a clean diet and proper pct you can keep a lot of ur gains. Keep up w the mill or bike work, cus if u do a dbol or a prop test u put it on pretty quick and will need the heart to carry it around. That's my thought. And depending on your choice you may or may not need to run nolva along side. Think about clomid and nolva for pct. Letro on hand for a deca stack if prone to gyno? then possably hcg w nolva. IF Soooo many possibilities. I like EQ it makes me feel goooood!