5th cycle

[Ih8urdsm]

5th cycle 28 years old 195lbs
Previous compounds used: Deca, Test E, Test P, Winny, Dbol


Week 1-12 PROP 100mg ed.
Week 1-10 TREN A 50-75mg ed.
Week 5-12 WINNY 50-100mg ed.

Should i run tren at 75 from the beginning, then go to 50 if the sides are too harsh, or start with 50 ?

I've run winny before at 100mg a day w/ no issues, so should i just run 100 from the beginning?

I've also been questioning if there is any benefit to me throwing EQ in there for 12 weeks? I have everything else on hand, but can get my hands on EQ also so i was curious to opinions on me adding that in.

I'm not getting ready for a contest or trying to get super lean for anything serious like that, i want to add some mass and strength, but also lean up a little...would there be any reason to throw dbol in there (i have some left over) for a few weeks at the beginning? or no, since the other compounds kick in right away? What about upping the test P a little? i've run 750mg a week of test E on 2 cycles.

Thanks for your help and advice.

[tonytone]

start the tren at 50mg ED, and you can bump up as you feel necessary

if 100mg winny worked before w no sides, use it again

i would leave the dbol out for reasons you stated

you could up the test p, maybe 120 mg ED

[RA]

If this is your first go around with tren, I would stick with 50 to start. Dont bother with eq, personally I would run the dbols..

and I dont think you need to up the test but thats up to you..

[Ih8urdsm]

thanks guys.
Whats the reason for not adding EQ? Just curious i dont know too much about the compound besides what i've read in the steroid profiles on various sites.

[pumpd4lif]

i wouldnt run the dbol either the winny is toxic enough u wont need the dbol with the tren anyWAY

[RA]

thanks guys.
Whats the reason for not adding EQ? Just curious i dont know too much about the compound besides what i've read in the steroid profiles on various sites.

IMO, you just dont need it. Tren is like EQ on steroids..

[tonytone]

yeah, EQ is pretty weak..vascularity is pretty much all i get

[pdog80]

Am I reading this right?! Winny for 7 weeks?!!! Your liver values are gonna go sky high. Run winny for 4-5 weeks max if you value your liver.

[Ih8urdsm]

is anyone else going to say that 7 weeks on winny is too long?

will be taking milk thistle at 1000mg and r-ala at 300mg a day

[RA]

7 weeks is harsh on your liver. Cut it down a week..

[C_Bino]

is anyone else going to say that 7 weeks on winny is too long?

will be taking milk thistle at 1000mg and r-ala at 300mg a day

I have done it for more than 7. Is it a good idea, well probably not but as long as you dont drink alcohol or put strain on your liver through another avoidable source than I dont see anything bad happening to you. Make sure you stock up on enough milk thistle to last you 10weeks. Start it one week prior to and run it 2 weeks longer than your winny imo.

That being said 6 week is generally the running time from winny, but by no means is that set in stone.