would like some input on this cycle..

[cantspeak]

Weeks 1-8 Winny depot 50mg mon,wed,fri

weeks 1-8 tren ace 50mg ed

weeks 1-4 dbol 30mg ed

weeks 1-8 test prop 50mg daily

[axiomatic6]

whats is the dbol for? it seems oddly out of place. this is a great cutting cycle you have listed, forget the dbol, it will only make you retain water. just the test prop and tren is a great cycle, if i am wrong and you are this to bulk then i would leave out the wintrol and up the test to 500mg a week, and the tren to 75mged

[SMAN12b]

Welcome to AR cantspeak,
read my signiture and give us the information and we can help you better. your cycle needs some work!!

[Bigmax]

Give us some stats bro...age weight training and cycle experience????..oh welcome to AR bro.

[Bigmax]

Damn you SMAN!!!!...i need to learn to type faster!!

[spywizard]

hahahaa..

I love the dbol ... but he is right, not needed with the test prop.... but hey, there are other reasons for taking dbol..

[cantspeak]

Well this will be my 4th cycle

training 8 yrs hardcore

250
12% BF can see abs without flexing,

arms 18

calves 19

waist 34
i dont know chest measurement im most proud of my calves and quads and forearms

in this cycle i was looking for a lean bulker ,not an all out bulk cycle


past cycles 1. sust 500mg, deca 400 - 10 weeks
2. Test suspension 50 mg a day, a-bombs 50mg(seriously underdosed though) and NPP 100mg mon,wed,fri was 6 weeks would been a little longer but i ran out of gear and a source at the time

3. tren ace 75mg EOD
omnadren 500mg weekly

[cantspeak]

oh yeah andthanks for the warm welcome guys!

[cantspeak]

just bumping for more input

[Liftnainez]

i would run the winnY ed

[shortie]

Weeks 1-8 Winny depot 50mg mon,wed,fri

weeks 1-8 tren ace 50mg ed

weeks 1-4 dbol 30mg ed

weeks 1-8 test prop 50mg daily

I think you could go ED on the winny, this will be better for the half life and be a more effective dose. As for the Dbol, you could leave it in there, but at 30 mg ed I am not too fond of it and don't think you'll get a thing out of it but bloat, better yet just skip the dbol and run your prop up to 75-100mg ed. Other than that looks real solid.

Oh yeah Welcome aboard.

[cantspeak]

well the winnie EOD is because of cost more than anything else right now at this point.Its my first cycle with winnie as well.

thank you for the critque, I think Im gonna leave out the D-bol. Going to try to get more winnie if possible. So new revised cycle is or could be


1-8 winnie 50mg ed

1-8 fina 50mg

1-8 prop 50mg ed


Also I know this is a diff subject than this thread , but do you think any of the new "designer" steroids (PH), such as superdrol,max lmg etc.. would be useful in a real asa cycle? or is that just dumb?

[shortie]

JMO, but most of the "designer" supplements are more dangerous and less effective than real AAS, you have a solid enough cycle there, no need to clutter it up bro.

[cantspeak]

thanks shortie I was just curious the whole designersteroid issue..