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    Need help planning first cycle...

    Hey guys. I’m 22, been lifting hard for the past 4 years. I'm 6 foot 3, 265 lbs at about 16% body fat. Oh yeah, I have no cycle experience. Been doing a bunch of research and believe that I am ready to do my first cycle. I know I want to do:

    1 – 12 Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 14 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    1 – 14 L-dex .25mg ED


    and then start my pct 2 weeks after my last enan injection:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex


    My big question is whether or not I should add something like deca or eq or dbol to my cycle. Since this is my first cycle, should I run just test-e? I was thinking of adding dbol, but wasn't sure if this would be too much for a newbie. Thanks for all your help.

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    I wouldn't add anything...save the nolva for pct I'd say the ldex will be enough...if it's not bump it to .5. I would actually cut down on a little body fat first before cycling..you won't regret it...TRUST ME!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobyjoe
    Hey guys. I’m 22, been lifting hard for the past 4 years. I'm 6 foot 3, 265 lbs at about 16% body fat. Oh yeah, I have no cycle experience. Been doing a bunch of research and believe that I am ready to do my first cycle. I know I want to do:

    1 – 12 Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 14 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    1 – 14 L-dex .25mg ED


    and then start my pct 2 weeks after my last enan injection:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex


    My big question is whether or not I should add something like deca or eq or dbol to my cycle. Since this is my first cycle, should I run just test-e? I was thinking of adding dbol, but wasn't sure if this would be too much for a newbie. Thanks for all your help.
    No need for other compounds. Test Enan will suffice.

    I dont se the need for both Nolva/Arimidex whilst "on". Use Arimidex at 0.25-0.75mg/ED to combat bloat and other estrogenic sides.

    For PCT. As you have it, use Arimidex. Use Nolva/Arimidex IMO. See how you get on with that. You can always add Clomid at 100mg/ED, but I cant stand the sides. Emotional and eye sight problems are somthing I;d rather avoid. I use HCG also, but I think as its your firts run, there isnt a need for it.

    Investing in some Proviron will really help increase your sex drive, reduce SHBG, whilst not being liver toxic and reducing estrogen, which are all valuable qualities during PCT. 50mg/ED throughout PCT is what I do.

    Hope that clears it up?

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    Thanks for the help guys. I just figured I'd ask since my friends say I should be taking dbol with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobyjoe
    Thanks for the help guys. I just figured I'd ask since my friends say I should be taking dbol with it.
    Use that for your second cycle.

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    whats best if just taking winny 50mg oral everyday??? should i just take nolvadex 10mg/ed with it or what would be the best thing to take with it to help my body ??? i will continue taking Celebrex for joints but what is best to take for other organs and to keep my levels right through my 6-8 week cycle or winny..................................

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