advice please!

[arnold_of_malta]

i want to now the difference between taking testosterone cycles with aramidex only compared with testosterone with deca and aramidex!

my question is which is better to gain more muscel mass and to bulk up ?
i now that deca helps but is it worth the money of with test only cycle you will bulk up alot with good diet and training and rest?

say the difference between

cycle 1
1000mg testosterone e weekly injected twice weekly 500mgs mon 500 mgs thurday with 0,5 mgs aramidex daily

cycle 2

750mgs test e weekly
400mgs deca weekly
0.5 mgs aramidex

which of these to cycles is best ?

[Hellmaskbanned]

600mgs deca the synergy is worthwhile.

[Hellmaskbanned]

How about giving your stats though...

Both might not be suitable for you.

[arnold_of_malta]

i am 5 feet 7 200 pounds lean with abs all out cycled 5 cycles already this will be my 6th cycle starting october. i used deca, test, d ball, tren, boldinate, winistrol, primobolone. but now i want to bulk up to 230 pounds then shreed down to compete october 2007 i have 1 yr 3 mths left. i used deca with test i felt it was not worth the money i grow the same with or without deca it just gave me redness and bloat but it may have been fake deca thats why i am asking which is best to bulk up?

[MrMent1on]

i am 5 feet 7 200 pounds lean with abs all out cycled 5 cycles already this will be my 6th cycle starting october. i used deca, test, d ball, tren, boldinate, winistrol, primobolone. but now i want to bulk up to 230 pounds then shreed down to compete october 2007 i have 1 yr 3 mths left. i used deca with test i felt it was not worth the money i grow the same with or without deca it just gave me redness and bloat but it may have been fake deca thats why i am asking which is best to bulk up?

If you didnt grow on deca then your dosage was definitely too LOW. thats th eultimate combo bro test and deca. since its your 5th cycle try test @ 1000mg and deca at least 600mg. then tell me you didnt grow more. thats your ticket to 230lbs thats if your receptors are fresh and ready to go.

[arnold_of_malta]

most i took was 400 mgs deca and 750mg test the most i took
what shall i take next cycle ? will 1000mgs give me the same gains like the previous cycle i did?

[Kale]

i am 5 feet 7 200 pounds lean with abs all out cycled 5 cycles already this will be my 6th cycle starting october. i used deca, test, d ball, tren, boldinate, winistrol, primobolone. but now i want to bulk up to 230 pounds then shreed down to compete october 2007 i have 1 yr 3 mths left. i used deca with test i felt it was not worth the money i grow the same with or without deca it just gave me redness and bloat but it may have been fake deca thats why i am asking which is best to bulk up?

Dont forget to add you are only 19 !!!! http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=242908

[MrMent1on]

Dont forget to add you are only 19 !!!!

WOOOW!!! only 19 and done 5 cycles? are you kidding me.

[Ufa]

WOOOW!!! only 19 and done 5 cycles? are you kidding me.

Holly Sh!t

[Hellmaskbanned]

WOOOW!!! only 19 and done 5 cycles? are you kidding me.

That can't be healthy!

[*Narkissos*]

Dont forget to add you are only 19 !!!! http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=242908

Jeez Louise.

19 and claims he 'can't grow without steroids'

The things i come accross lol.

[michaelmotorcycle]

Jeez Louise.

19 and claims he 'can't grow without steroids'

not every one has your genetics narkissos, you never know, maybe he has really low test levels

[skipp]

Hey if he's 5'7" 200lbs, that's not too bad.. Almost everyone starts early, and he's competing..


Oh, and that's why they do HRT lol..

[Anabolios]

not every one has your genetics narkissos, you never know, maybe he has really low test levels

Yeah I wonder why. Come on guys...you don't remember this kid that puts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or ???????????????????? at the end of his posts. I don't even need to look through his threads because I already know his philosophy.
1.People around his area started cycling at like 15 and "they are fine"
2.He wants anything that won't give him acne
3.He cycles ALL the time and he is very young.
4.He will probably use any type of AAS if he hasn't already tried it.

Now come on...he used test and deca and "it wasn't worth the money" Now his training and dieting must have been awful because I know people that SUCK at working out and don't eat like they should but still get retainable mass from this. I'm sure his receptors were just saturated from HEAVY CYCLING at a young age....
Ahhh tsk tsk tsk tsk
What can I say....

[Anabolios]

Hey if he's 5'7" 200lbs, that's not too bad.. Almost everyone starts early, and he's competing..


Oh, and that's why they do HRT lol..

5"7 200 going on your 6th cycle with ALL these compounds? That is no good if you ask me. And just because he plans to compete in a year...ehh I give up

Have fun with HRT as stated above

[Anabolios]

Sorry for rackin my posts up in this thread..but just for the record I have respect for this guy but I think he's just so mislead and hardheaded to take advice. He wants to stay "pumped" all day and he can only get that when he's juicing....well I got news..who doesn't want to stay pumped all day and gain weight easily. I just don't think it's worth the health risks now. You could recover ok from all this cycling, but continuing to abuse it will only get you deeper into problems down the road. I almost wanna say that the damage has been done..but you never know. I would just ease up and take time off from the juice dude. But you won't

[arnold_of_malta]

Jeez Louise.

19 and claims he 'can't grow without steroids'

The things i come accross lol.

i did not you cannot grow without steriods mate, but i ment if you cycled and stoped and try to grow nuteral then it is very difficult. i have very high nuteral test levels and i grow alot natural but i got to a point i could not get bigger then i was and i had to start cycling, i wish i never cycled because its not healty and i got side effects and if i could go back time i would not do what i have done because its not worth it all that money on steriods and food and gym subscribtion and money all the side effects in the long run you get just to be bigger then other people i love being huge but if i could go back time i would never go near a gym in my life becuase once you enter you get addicted to train and get always bigger and bigger you are never happy with what you have. i try keeping away as long as possible from steriods but its very difficult becuase you sort of get addicted to them and always want to inject them into your blood. bodybuilding is a very nice sport but if you compare it with the risks we take its 100% not worth it and lets face it the girls dont like big muscels they like mostly a normal beach body with maximun 15 inch arms more them that maybe 1 from 10 will like you, but once your mind gets ****ed up and always want more no metter what you will do it. i am trying to stop not from steriods only but i am reducing all that food and reducing the number of days i train. eating every 2.5 -3 hrs a meal its nota relax and free life its a hard life and not nice think to do. i hope i will stick what i am tring to do its hard but i am tring hard i wish that i will do it at last i have been trining for over 1 yr now to stop bb but i alway fale i wish this time i will do it and never get back to what i use to do. even if you are healthy grown up the side effects you get and only a bit less then i get they are dangerous not safe as they say on this board.

[arnold_of_malta]

Jeez Louise.

19 and claims he 'can't grow without steroids'

The things i come accross lol.

and one more thing narkissos there is notthing funny about it, because if thats you in the picuter i am much better then you and only 19 yrs old mate you have a good shape but your shoulder could have been better like mine, so dont think that you are some thing great, if you want picture to prove what i am saying i will post them and you post yours and people will compare the mass and shape we have then you can talk narkissos.

[Anabolios]

It's not hard to grow after a cycle. It's the same as before providing everything went back to normal. You didn't reach a point where you couldn't grow anymore because you were 17 and probably 170 maybe less. I know that you didn't grow as much as you could. This is just a bad situation. Seek therapy. You are mentally addicted and that is it. I wish you the best of luck in overcoming your addiction and laying off the steroids for a few years and give your body a little break. You obviously have an addictive personality, however, I do hope you can bring yourself to NOT resort to steroids all the time because they can be dangerous if abused.

[Anabolios]

and one more thing narkissos there is notthing funny about it, because if thats you in the picuter i am much better then you and only 19 yrs old mate you have a good shape but your shoulder could have been better like mine, so dont think that you are some thing great, if you want picture to prove what i am saying i will post them and you post yours and people will compare the mass and shape we have then you can talk narkissos.

This guy is competition ready almost. That picture is him leaning out prepping for a show. I seen your picture buddy and YOU are nothing special at all. He has probably used a third of the gear you use and is in better shape. I remember you had your picture in your avatar and you're in average shape. You are 6 cycles deep and 200 pounds. So just because his shoulder(s) isn't like yours doesn't mean anything. Post those pics and lets see your fantastic physique Don't post a fake one either because I seen your avatar picture before and I still remember!!

[arnold_of_malta]

that avater picture was taken more then a yrs and half ago mate. if you dont have good shoulders you have nothing in bb

[MrMeathead]

and one more thing narkissos there is notthing funny about it, because if thats you in the picuter i am much better then you and only 19 yrs old mate you have a good shape but your shoulder could have been better like mine, so dont think that you are some thing great, if you want picture to prove what i am saying i will post them and you post yours and people will compare the mass and shape we have then you can talk narkissos.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Yeah put up or shut up.

Hell , You should be big. 6 heavy cycles and a stumpy 5'7'', you should look like wolverine. (from the cartoon , not the movie!)

[italianplayboy09]

Yeah put up or shut up.

Hell , You should be big. 6 heavy cycles and a stumpy 5'7'', you should look like wolverine. (from the cartoon , not the movie!)

id love to see that. lol

[MrMeathead]

Yeah put up or shut up.

Hell , You should be big. 6 heavy cycles and a stumpy 5'7'', you should look like wolverine. (from the cartoon , not the movie!)

Yea just like that!

[Hellmaskbanned]

Yea just like that!

Had to get that point accross!

[arnold_of_malta]

This guy is competition ready almost. That picture is him leaning out prepping for a show. I seen your picture buddy and YOU are nothing special at all. He has probably used a third of the gear you use and is in better shape. I remember you had your picture in your avatar and you're in average shape. You are 6 cycles deep and 200 pounds. So just because his shoulder(s) isn't like yours doesn't mean anything. Post those pics and lets see your fantastic physique Don't post a fake one either because I seen your avatar picture before and I still remember!!

rear lat spread

[italianplayboy09]

you look at lot taller then 5'7" there

[arnold_of_malta]

i am 5 feet 7 100% mate i am much bigger the taht narkoss lol

[arnold_of_malta]

i took that picture in a disco named havana in pace ville malta. come on for 19 yrs old i have good mass and i am lean i have a very good back and shoulders

[Bigmax]

Ok so???..when did this turn into a comp...be a bit more humble...we dont know that its really you on there anyway...if it is, decent back(smooth as baby's a$$) ..although you can add some proactive to your cycle...dont know about the shoulders and the rest..but more important stick to the thread bro....Both cycles look fine!

[Anabolios]

lol...take a picture of you holding a sign that says Im arnold of maltaaaaaaa" with that body...if its you PROPS..if not which id put money on...then lolol

But let me guess.."you dont have to prove anything" that's what AX tanned bouncer said who remembers his threads bwhahahah

[D-Money]

You are lookin mighty wide there. If that is you, Mad props son. Have you considered accutane? It might help with the acne. Make sure you give your body enough time in between cycles, so you don't fry your androgen receptors.

i took that picture in a disco named havana in pace ville malta. come on for 19 yrs old i have good mass and i am lean i have a very good back and shoulders

[arnold_of_malta]

yes i am wide alot and i use accutane aswell some times but its very hursh i used it before accutane

[Kale]

You put some pics up of yourself in one of your other threads but I cant find them anymore. Did you take them down ? Show us some front shots dude

[LatinoPR]

[quote=Kale]Dont forget to add you are only 19 !!!!




...WTF... ???

[arnold_of_malta]

You put some pics up of yourself in one of your other threads but I cant find them anymore. Did you take them down ? Show us some front shots dude

ok here it is from in front. what do you think i have good mass

[arnold_of_malta]

soo what do you think from the front ???? i look older then 19 but i am 19 steriods make you look older

[pittfallin]

hey arnold what is your e-mail...i want to ask you somthing about steroids im new to this...

[pittfallin]

i cant pm yet