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    Out Of The Loop!!!

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    test 200mg Wk 1-14
    winn 50mg Wk 8-14

    looking for suggestions for future cycles. I have had trouble gaining the lean weight that i want to gain without using anabolics. I guess my question would be what is new and dose anyone have any input on cycles?

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    Stats/training/cycle history, as much detail as possible including diet would help us to advice the best we can.

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    I can already tell you besides not posting your stats.. that your dsgs are wrong.. test should be higher then the deca

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ
    I can already tell you besides not posting your stats.. that your dsgs are wrong.. test should be higher then the deca
    It doesnt have to be

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    & if this is your first cycle you dont need 3 compounds.

    + post stats like marcus stated.

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    Agreed... with the compound advice... you dont think its wise to dsg say test 300mg deca 200? for example

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ
    Agreed... with the compound advice... you dont think its wise to dsg say test 300mg deca 200? for example

    You dont have to.

    Would be the same as 200 200 or 100 test 200 deca .

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    i am just looking for 15lbs.(lean) by far this is not my first cycle, I have been aroud for a little while. Just been tring different ph's for a little while, with no results I might add.


    It has been extreamly hard for me to gain weight over the years b/c I am 6'2 and I have always been lean. My starting weight was 157lbs and it has taken me 7 long years with alot of work to get to where I am at noe @ 195lbs.

    What would be the reason for taking more mgs of t vs deca .

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    stats:
    hgt: 6'2
    wght:195
    bft%: 10.9%
    m/f:184.2lbs/10.8lbs

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    knowing stats what do you think I should do?

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    I, and most others on this board will agree, that test should be higher and longer than deca . 500mg test and 300mg deca would be a good next run.

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    what is the reason for the test having to be higher?

    not looking for water weight gains

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    do not mean to questoin all of you but for mt information I would like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOKI555
    what is the reason for the test having to be higher?

    not looking for water weight gains
    I'm running 1.2grams a week of test and I do not have any significant water gains. Test makes everything better. mood, sex drive,...etc. and w/o it your gains, if any, would really be a disapointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOKI555
    what is the reason for the test having to be higher?

    not looking for water weight gains


    It doesn't have to be ran higher. If you have a replacement dose for your shut down natty production you should be fine. Some like to run it higher just to be extra safe of not having there sex drive lowered. Deca is hard on your HPTA , but for many poses no promblems to there sex drive, but some still experience it though. Any replacement dose should stop this from happening while on. Off is another story....I've seen/heard of alot of aas users experiencing test dick after cycles do to slow recovery after cycle.

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