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    Dosing for limiting ligament damage

    I wanted to know if I should follow what this article says. I am playing rugby and have been using gear for a while and I think it may be causing some tendon damage or weakness around the ankle. After every practice they are extremely sore and don't recover for a while. I am not trying to gain a lot of muscle mass. heres the article or is it a waist of time to dose that low

    [While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

    To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

    Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood

    Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

    Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca

    Thanks for any help

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    that post unforutnately, is thought to be BS by people. There is no evidence to back that up really.

    The only aas that I know of that is comonly known to cause joint/ligament problems is DHT derivatives ie masteron and winstrol. Due to their anti estrogen properties, it is thought that inhibition of estrogen, to an extent, can effect joints negatively.


    test helped my shoulder feel better and deca did even more.

    my .02

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