after researching 1st cycle is planned

[R9PUG]

heres what ive planed so far after reading the forum.

Weeks 1-12
Test E 400mg/week
Nolva 10mg/daily

Week 13:
Nolva 40mg/daily
Clomid 100mg/daily

Week 14:
Nolva 30mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

Week 15:
Nolva 20mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

also after lookin at steroid supplyers, is NOLVADEX 10mg Active ingredient: tamoxifene?
and clomid active ingredient clomiphene citrate?
just checking to mak sure im not buyin fake!

[Kale]

Age, stats, height, weight, cycle and workout experience ?

[perfectbeast2001]

you are correct with the active ingredients. Agree with kale post stats. Hey kale get that girl back on your avvy bro!!

[R9PUG]

21, 5'8, and about 195lbs

Age, stats, height, weight, cycle and workout experience ?

[R9PUG]

2 years training forgot to add

[perfectbeast2001]

most guys on here will tell you not to cycle at that age as you have so much growing you can do natrually with a good diet. If you were to ignore there advice then the cycle you have outlined seems very sensible.

[R9PUG]

ive always been told u stop growing at 18 ?

most guys on here will tell you not to cycle at that age as you have so much growing you can do natrually with a good diet. If you were to ignore there advice then the cycle you have outlined seems very sensible.

[perfectbeast2001]

ive always been told u stop growing at 18 ?

This is not true. Everyone stops grwoing at different ages depending on there hormones ect. This is not about when you stop growing this is about your ability to make good gains natrually without gear. As you get older you may find steroids very helpful but they are not a magic pill and will not do the work for you. Build a solid base then use them later in life when they can really be a benefit.

[magic32]

Drop the Nolva during cycle and use an AI.

M.

[R9PUG]

what is an AI? i tried putting it into the search tool but nothing came up
cheers

Drop the Nolva during cycle and use an AI.

M.

[magic32]

AI = Aromatase Inhibitor (see below)

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ase+inhibitors

M.

[Bigmax]

AI=aromatise Inhibitor bro....You dont need AAS right now bro....you're only 21 thats 1 thing but the biggest thing is youve only been traning for 2 years not a good enuff base....You can continue to grow natty then you can move on to AAS and have good results....do some more research....dont get me wrong the cycle you had layed out is good for a first timer....But I think if you get more training under your belt and grow without them when you do use them BAM you'll tell a big difference.

[SVTMuscle*]

And also start the Clomid + Nolva 2 weeks after your last shot of Test.... Test E is a slow compound so it stays in your system for 2 weeks

[DSM4Life]

Weeks 1-12
Test E 400mg/week
Nolva 10mg/daily

15 days after the last shot start the clomid and nolva.

[R9PUG]

so there isnt any need to use nolva thru the cycle itself?

[R9PUG]

also how much years training should i do before starting ? i feel my base is good enough to start

[DSM4Life]

Running nolva throughout the cycle is a personal prefference. Me personally, i always run nolva throughout the entire cycle as low dosages. Then when PCT time comes bump up the nolva and add clomid.

[k0nsl]

also how much years training should i do before starting ? i feel my base is good enough to start

Do you have a picture?

[R9PUG]

nope sory

Do you have a picture?

[SVTMuscle*]

so there isnt any need to use nolva thru the cycle itself?

some people prefer it, others dont. an AI is pretty much necessary throughout a cycle, alot of people like A Dex