Masteron VS Winstrol!! (as a stand alone)

[1buffsob]

Thats what i like to hear ...will it dry me out more than winni does?

Steroids won't "dry" you out, figuratively speaking. Masteron won't convert into estrogen, and it also helps to inhibit aromatization of other steroids as well. So right there, you can expect to recieve no ADDITIONAL water weight or bloating from using it. The fact that Masteron is also a DHT-derivitive, and is an exceptionally strong androgen, it can give you that "hard" look, provided diet is right. Winny does this as well. But given the fact that masteron will bind harder to the receptor sites than winny, you could say that these effects would be more pronounced with masteron than winstrol .

Pay close attention to the things in bold though. Don't be lead into believing that masteron or winny will "dry" you out. You'll be far from dry when you eat at pizza hut. But, if diet is right, you can be "harder", than just cardio and diet alone.

1buffsob

[Bigmax]

I couldve sworn I said the same thing to him a week ago...

[*Narkissos*]

Steroids won't "dry" you out, figuratively speaking.

That's not true per se.

Here's the scenario: Dht-derivatives (with the exception of anadrol ) added to a regime.. with no other variables changed (i.e. sodium... carbs.. training.. cardio.. water intake remaining the same).. will cause the user to look 'drier'

So i can't echo your statement

In my experience (having used winny alone.. ) i'd have to say that winny, for me, is superior in this aspect.. and superior as a stand-alone

Nark

[LatinoPR]

I have great results with Winny...love it.



LPR ...dermatology.

[Bigmax]

But nark ...there is one thing that I need to point out...You Said he would "look drier"....thats not necessarily dried out.

[1buffsob]

That's not true per se.

Here's the scenario: Dht-derivatives (with the exception of anadrol) added to a regime.. with no other variables changed (i.e. sodium... carbs.. training.. cardio.. water intake remaining the same).. will cause the user to look 'drier'

Kind of what I was getting at:

You'll be far from dry when you eat at pizza hut. But, if diet is right, you can be "harder", than just cardio and diet alone.

You just felt the need to come and show me up, once again. That's ok. I still love you. Just...... not as much.

1buffsob

[*Narkissos*]

But nark ...there is one thing that I need to point out...You Said he would "look drier"....thats not necessarily dried out.

Doesn't 'looking drier' equate to being 'dried out'?

The term 'dried out' on the message boards is used to mean "reduced water retention..usually associated with reduced estrogen"

DHT-derivates generally reduce the activity of the aromatase enzyme (acting an AI you could say)... thus sodium retention (a side of increased circulatory estrogen) is reduced... Less sodium retention = less subcutaneous water.

Nark

[Rocky IV]

But nark ...there is one thing that I need to point out...You Said he would "look drier"....thats not necessarily dried out.

Listen from personal expreriance i can take a winni only cycle and not change my diet at all...lets say i was eating pizza hut and fast al the time while working out and then did a winni only cycle without changing my diet,,,i 100% dry out i am carrieing less water.. can see amayzing changes in abdominals section without changing diet or cardio ...for me that means it does dry me out..mabey it just doesnt dry you and some others out becuase of differnt ginetics,,but im cirtain of this from experiance

[Rocky IV]

Originally Posted by Narkissos
That's not true per se.

Here's the scenario: Dht-derivatives (with the exception of anadrol ) added to a regime.. with no other variables changed (i.e. sodium... carbs.. training.. cardio.. water intake remaining the same).. will cause the user to look 'drier'


[QUOTE=1buffsob]Kind of what I was getting at:



Lol did you just change you mind in a matter of minuts so now you also agree it dries you out

[MatrixGuy]

Listen from personal expreriance i can take a winni only cycle and not change my diet at all...lets say i was eating pizza hut and fast al the time while working out and then did a winni only cycle without changing my diet,,,i 100% dry out i am carrieing less water.. can see amayzing changes in abdominals section without changing diet or cardio ...for me that means it does dry me out..mabey it just doesnt dry you and some others out becuase of differnt ginetics,,but im cirtain of this from experiance

I would say you were blessed with excellent genetics.

[Liftnainez]

I would say you were blessed with excellent genetics.

OR its the fact that SOME ppl on this board (mostly parrots) are so CLOSED MINDED.. MY BEST friend was on var- ATE whatever he wanted, NO cardio and LOST FAT.. I dont know what happend but his abs appeared, and body sculputed.. nobody can tell or argue with him that hes wrong.. he doesnt care if its his genetics or what, all im saying the myth that ur diet has to be spot on is starting to be a little dubious.. just saying what I see from first hand experience..

[Rocky IV]

OR its the fact that SOME ppl on this board (mostly parrots) are so CLOSED MINDED.. MY BEST friend was on var- ATE whatever he wanted, NO cardio and LOST FAT.. I dont know what happend but his abs appeared, and body sculputed.. nobody can tell or argue with him that hes wrong.. he doesnt care if its his genetics or what, all im saying the myth that ur diet has to be spot on is starting to be a little dubious.. just saying what I see from first hand experience..

your right alot of people are close minded and dont tlk from experince rather from just what they hear,,but i believe citain ass can dry you out of water with out change in diet and cardio due to reduction in estrogen levels..such as winni...and masteron ..and i also belive that var and tren burn fat with no change in diet and cardio as well.. i think there was actually a studie done using 10 mg a day of var reduced fat with no physical activity at all

[goalseeker]

Ive been running var at 100/ed, and just started Masteron at 100/ed(day 6) Waiting to see if the masteron helps out a bit....

[Rocky IV]

Ive been running var at 100/ed, and just started Masteron at 100/ed(day 6) Waiting to see if the masteron helps out a bit....

im doing 60 mg of var ed im gonna drop it down to 40mg when i add the masteron 100mg eod on this coming monday..how many days ago did you start the masteron? and are you running any form of test with it?

[cfiler]

OR its the fact that SOME ppl on this board (mostly parrots) are so CLOSED MINDED.. MY BEST friend was on var- ATE whatever he wanted, NO cardio and LOST FAT.. I dont know what happend but his abs appeared, and body sculputed.. nobody can tell or argue with him that hes wrong.. he doesnt care if its his genetics or what, all im saying the myth that ur diet has to be spot on is starting to be a little dubious.. just saying what I see from first hand experience..

The problem I have with that statement; is that people who have never lifted a weight before, could read your post, and then think that aas can be used to build muscle and burn fat, while no physical activity or diet is needed.

I don't think that anyone will disagree that diet is 90% of gains, whether on aas or not. If you eat a box of fudgesickles daily, and still take aas, do not expect to have the same gains as someone who had a strict diet.

[Rocky IV]

The problem I have with that statement; is that people who have never lifted a weight before, could read your post, and then think that aas can be used to build muscle and burn fat, while no physical activity or diet is needed.

I don't think that anyone will disagree that diet is 90% of gains, whether on aas or not. If you eat a box of fudgesickles daily, and still take aas, do not expect to have the same gains as someone who had a strict diet.

LOL I think everyone on this board relizes that bro its obviious that if diet is in check the gains would be better..but thats not what we were talking about ,,we were talking about takeg them with out any diet change at all gains of cirtain ass will still work..obviosly not as well

[SMAX]

Im sure that if you eat foods high in carbs and fat, rather than eating clean your results arent going to be as good as they could have been. FACT

You may still get good results from eating crap and using gear, but the results would be much better if the diet and cardio is spot on.

Just MO.

SMAX

[brad1986]

why are people so against running just a simple test?Whats with running all these compunds by themselves. IMO test is best and whether you bulk or cut is diet dependant

[bjpennnn]

this thread was started in 06

[brad1986]

fuk didnt even notice that.... Im sure hes on trt by now lol

[the Italian]

I am going to be taking some cycles in about a month. First is a stack of GENOTROPE GH with DIANBOLIC 25. Then SUSTA-T 250 with WINSTAN 50. Do you think those combo's are good.?

[the Italian]

This is a q for rocky IV

[austinite]

^ welcome. Please do not bump ancient threads.

[the Italian]

Sorry did not realize new to this