Masteron VS Winstrol!! (as a stand alone)

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 07:43 PM

I have personally used winstrol as a stand alone with great sucsess i was wondering if anyone has used masteron by it self as well as winni by its self to give feedback on which gave better results

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 07:57 PM

common now one has used winni or masteron? lol

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 07:57 PM

if thats you in your avvy...u dont need either. i have used both..neither as a stand alone though.

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 07:59 PM

yea that is me in my avatar and how was the combo between the 2 compounds

**Bigmax** · 08-21-2006, 08:01 PM

The compounds worked great for me bro...but again if thats you on the avvy....You dont either.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 08:01 PM

if i had to choose....masteron.

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

The compounds worked great for me bro...but again if thats you on the avvy....You dont either.

thanks guys but i didnt ask you wither i should take them or not im just asking which of them are better ...there is always room for impovement

**cantspeak** · 08-21-2006, 08:05 PM

well i think what everyone is trying to say is those a basically drugs for cutting cycles ,you need a mass cycle you'd be huge, you already look awsome, a good mass cycle is due

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 08:05 PM

better would be purley based on the individual & their needs. no?

**Bigmax** · 08-21-2006, 08:06 PM

Then I suggest you try them for yourself...no on here can actually tell which is better.Everyone is different and you will react different than other people....I know guys that will tell masteron all the way and you have guys that swear by winny.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 08:07 PM

great minds think alike bigmax

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:07 PM

guys im the 1% of those guys who gains a solid 10 to 12 pounds usining winstrol alone..im not in the mood to look like a balloon i like to stay the exact way i am accept add a few pounds of density and sculp a bit more

**cfiler** · 08-21-2006, 08:08 PM

I'm more of a fan of Winstrol. I think because it's so inexpensive, that's not worth shelling out the extra for mast.

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Then I suggest you try them for yourself...no on here can actually tell which is better.Everyone is different and you will react different than other people....I know guys that will tell masteron all the way and you have guys that swear by winny.

ok in that case i was wondering if masteron lowers water retention in the body when used by itself ...winstrol made me loose the little watter that i had and i looked unbelievable ,,but i have been reading about the anti estrogenic properties of masteron so will it lower water retention more than winstrol when used alone

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 08:12 PM

so then if you have used winny....u already know. try masteron & then you will know how that works for you..being low b/f like you are...mast would probly be great for you..but again...no one can tell you that without you trying it

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by cfiler

I'm more of a fan of Winstrol. I think because it's so inexpensive, that's not worth shelling out the extra for mast.

But masterin is really cheap buy a very respected ugl that we all use

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 08:14 PM

edit you post....no $$ to be discussed in open forums bro

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

so then if you have used winny....u already know. try masteron & then you will know how that works for you..being low b/f like you are...mast would probly be great for you..but again...no one can tell you that without you trying it

your very right...but at least i just want to know which one lowers water retention more out of the 2

**Bigmax** · 08-21-2006, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Rocky IV

ok in that case i was wondering if masteron lowers water retention in the body when used by itself ...winstrol made me loose the little watter that i had and i looked unbelievable ,,but i have been reading about the anti estrogenic properties of masteron so will it lower water retention more than winstrol when used alone

Good then you are doing other research,There has been Data on masteron supposdely lowering estrogen,However its has been said that its a minut chance...now i'm going by other BBers experiences on that one...Then again you'll get guys that say it does and thats the bottom line.What are your goals ???

**Bigmax** · 08-21-2006, 08:16 PM

Rocky you need to edit that price bro....after you finish reading about mast...read the rules bro.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 08:16 PM

i am not 100% sure about the water retention properties in masteron so wait for someone who know exactly. I know that the lower b/f you are to begin with, the more dramatic the results are with it. if its used for contest prep, i would say its one of the best for its purpose.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Rocky you need to edit that price bro....after you finish reading about mast...read the rules bro.

HAHA beat ya bigmax

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

edit you post....no $$ to be discussed in open forums bro

Sorry about that just eddited it thought it was only with use of any ugl names

**Bigmax** · 08-21-2006, 08:20 PM

Thanks for editing bro.

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Good then you are doing other research,There has been Data on masteron supposdely lowering estrogen,However its has been said that its a minut chance...now i'm going by other BBers experiences on that one...Then again you'll get guys that say it does and thats the bottom line.What are your goals ???

My goals are to not exceed going over 5-10 pounds while manintaing curent body fat but lowering estrogen and water a bit while hardening out to give a very hard pumped chissled look

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:24 PM

winsrol seemed to lower my estogen pretty well but if masteron does lower it more i think i would be in love lol

**Bigmax** · 08-21-2006, 08:26 PM

Then you guys might make a good match...LOL

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Then you guys might make a good match...LOL

definatley llol.....anyone else have any experience with the antiestrogeic properties of materon used alone with out any aromatizable steriods. i already understand it lowers the whater retantion when stacked with ass that aromatize..but as a stand alone will it suck me dry of water and estrogen?

**Bigmax** · 08-21-2006, 08:31 PM

Hold on bro...no it wont do that.No AAS will do that.Diet ...as well as loading and depleting will do that.

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 09:12 PM

what are you talking about winstrol does that 100% from experience mabey you recat differently but i get sucked dry of water from winstrol

**one8nine** · 08-21-2006, 09:24 PM

both

**Rocky IV** · 08-21-2006, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

both

that sounds good but i like to get a good idea of how one compound reacts with my body before i stack it..so i can get a good idea of te synergy that may take place

**bigpopparich** · 08-21-2006, 10:27 PM

im on my first cycle ever ...and i chose winny and a dosage of 50 - 75mg ED ....and i think this shyt is amazing and im taking the orals ...i heard the shots ecven work better..but im gettin my shyt from china and this shyt is GREAt...caspule form

**goalseeker** · 08-21-2006, 10:36 PM

and hows the hairline doin bro? I heard its hard on that....

**Rocky IV** · 08-22-2006, 11:10 AM

bump for anyone with masteron experience as a stand alone

**vitor** · 08-22-2006, 11:27 AM

Ime using masteron as a stand-alone right now, after a heavy first 4-week cycle. Only 65mgs ed, and I like it alot. Masteron is alot more potent that I thought.

**V_Vandetta** · 08-22-2006, 11:40 AM

Well I have to agree with big max on this I have used both winny and masterone But never just the single compound ............. EVRY One is different everyone has different goals in mind what you need to do is find that out for you SoIMO run the masterone only cycle and see how you do ........ As for any AAS stripping water bro THATS ALL DIET BRo I have run cutting cycles and cheated on diet and got bloated like crazy thats on winny So the idea was than since winny took water from the system that it would help WRONG not even close ............ but It all comes down to YOU masterone will help supress estrogen but its has the prop estor which reqires ED injections but say stack it with tren A and you have a better cycle working for you IMO

**Rocky IV** · 08-28-2006, 09:30 PM

bump for anyone else with masteron experience im addeing it to my var cycle 1 week from today

**1buffsob** · 08-28-2006, 09:39 PM

Masteron would make a great addition to your var cycle. A BB I work with runs that for his cutting cycles, along with prop. I've never done any cycle without test, so I can't comment on that. But I will say that masteron is probably the best steroid I've ever ran in terms of rock hard gains. You'll like it I'm sure.

1buffsob

**Rocky IV** · 08-28-2006, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

Masteron would make a great addition to your var cycle. A BB I work with runs that for his cutting cycles, along with prop. I've never done any cycle without test, so I can't comment on that. But I will say that masteron is probably the best steroid I've ever ran in terms of rock hard gains. You'll like it I'm sure.

1buffsob

Thats what i like to hear

...will it dry me out more than winni does?

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