Thread: Is this first cycle decent?
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08-21-2006, 11:19 PM #1
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Is this first cycle decent?
The cycle posted on http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle2.php interests me (Novice Cycle #2-1, the first one). I was wondering if that is a good cycle, and could I change Testosterone Cypionate to Testosterone Enanthate . I am curious about the use and purpose of Vitamin B-6 though. What I really like about this cycle is it has my three favorite steroids (test eth., Deca , and D-Bol) and the use of Nolvadex throughout the cycle. Although some people say using Nolvadex throughout will effect the gains, I think it is better for me, due to I've already had gyno naturally w/o the use of steroids. Would that decrease my chances of it re-occuring? Post what you think of the cycle, and if you would make changes to it. Thanks for all the help
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08-22-2006, 01:27 AM #2
Test E and Cyp are basically interchangable - I seem to respond better to Cyp myself but there really should be no difference between the two of them. I myself would advise you to use Test only on your first cycle. Favorite steroids ? I thought you said this was your first cycle ?
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08-22-2006, 01:31 AM #3
Originally Posted by powerlifter
For a 1st time you will gains will be excellent on just 1 compound. It doesn't necessarily have to be test but this is advisable
King
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08-22-2006, 07:51 AM #4
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Totally agree, first cyle of test only. I gained over 30lbs running 500mg a week of Test E. Minimal water and fat, ate well and kept lean, and kept over 20lbs. of it. Why run more than you need to your first time.
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08-22-2006, 07:54 AM #5
yup... test only bro.....
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08-22-2006, 08:37 AM #6
How are Test-E, Deca and D-bol your "favorites" if you haven't ever run a cycle before?
I would also advise sticking to one compound. Most folks suggest Test-E. I have had great results with a Deca only cycle as well although some folks dont respond well to deca by itself and I probably wouldn't recommend it to someone for their first cycle.
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08-22-2006, 12:10 PM #7
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I know I haven't taken steroids before, but they are my favorites because of their bulking properties and thats the cycle I am about to enter, a bulking cycle. For a first cycle is there a perferable steroid ; test. e. or test cyp.? How much weekly would you recommend for a beginner; 500mg/week? How about the anti-estrogens, because I've had gyno naturally, what should I use and how much and when. Also am I at an increased risk of it reoccuring? Thanks for all the help guys, I'm new to this and I probally would have destroyed my body with out proper advice.
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08-22-2006, 12:13 PM #8
Originally Posted by tard_zone
bro whats your age training experiance .... ???
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08-22-2006, 12:13 PM #9
Glad you came here for advise before jumping into things (I wish I had). Most people here are probably going to recommend 500mg test-E weekly. You may want to add in nolva during the cycle to protect against gyno. You might have better luck getting advice on the gyno issue in the PCT forum too.
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08-22-2006, 12:22 PM #10
Originally Posted by tard_zone
Yes, you'de be more gyno prone than someone with no problems during puberty. Run Aromasin 25mg/ED and Nolva on hand. If sides arise, run Nolva at 20mg/ED along with Aromsin. This could also be done for PCT. See how you respond to androgens that aromotase, you may not have any problems.
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08-22-2006, 12:28 PM #11
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I'd say 500, skip 250 because your natural levels will be nil anyway.
But swifto is right, 1 compound first.
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08-22-2006, 03:11 PM #12
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So I can use test e./test cyp. at 500 mg/week? How many weeks should I go for; about 10? Should I run Nolvadex from day one, or clomid, or what? I haven't done much research on anti estrogens or PCT, so now that I have the base of my cycle made, I just need to finish it up. So basically whats left to be decided is.
-10 weeks of test.?
-Should I cycle up/down with test.
-What's good as an anti-estrogen
-What's recommended as PCT?
thanks for the help once again, a lot of other boards have stuck up members that don't give advice
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08-22-2006, 03:16 PM #13
Originally Posted by tard_zone
10-12 weeks. Aim for 10. If your still gaining, hit 12 then leave 14 days for Enan and start PCT.
Run Aromasin 25mg/EOD whilst "on" and keep Nolva on hand. Run at 20mg/ED if side arise, then a maintenence dose of 10mg/ED. Also run Aromasin 20mg/ED and Nolva 20mg/Ed for PCT.
Spend some time in the PCT forum. I;m not handing it to you on a plate. I run HCG /Nolva/Proviron . Read Hooker's PCT protocol.
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08-22-2006, 03:26 PM #14
Originally Posted by tard_zone
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