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    DBOL ONLY CYCLES. DO they excist?

    I was wondering if theres any success with DBOL only cycles?(not counting the PCT) Can u guys share your success stories and opinions about it? Tust me,, searching dosnt answer this...

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    no. i would not or have not ran a dbol only cycle.

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    people on this board pee on d-bol only cycles. meaning they dont approve. maybe it will work 4 u! but probably not

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    Quote Originally Posted by peump
    dude, I 've seen this thread so many times in my life...LOL.. Im an oral guy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    dude, I 've seen this thread so many times in my life...LOL.. Im an oral guy..
    well d-bol wont do much by itself in the long run. do u like boobs? it gave me puffy boobies when i ran it with test

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer12
    well d-bol wont do much by itself in the long run. do u like boobs? it gave me puffy boobies when i ran it with test


    Thats not good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Growingpains


    Thats not good!
    i know! it hurt too! please dont run a d-bol only cycle. its like the biggest inside joke on AR

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer12
    well d-bol wont do much by itself in the long run. do u like boobs? it gave me puffy boobies when i ran it with test

    dont worry, I have clomid and nolvadex

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    i had letro. just read what i wrote in ur other thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    dude, I 've seen this thread so many times in my life...LOL.. Im an oral guy..

    well since you are a oral only guy .... there really not much to say that i am sure you know how toxic some oral if not all can be to the liver .. also keep in mind that you will keep about 20% of the gains if you are lucky and do a great PCT .than maybe you will keep 5 pounds from the 25 pounds you gain .. not to methion the side effects you will get .......... but if you insist on it than by all means do but there will come a time when you question your self WHY did I not listen to bro's and use injections when i could have keeped 20 pound gains no water and look and feel that much better with No damage to my liver and kidneys ....... but hey happy Dball ... Note i would not advise any longer than 4-5 weeks useing dbal

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    Quote Originally Posted by V_Vandetta
    well since you are a oral only guy .... there really not much to say that i am sure you know how toxic some oral if not all can be to the liver .. also keep in mind that you will keep about 20% of the gains if you are lucky and do a great PCT .than maybe you will keep 5 pounds from the 25 pounds you gain .. not to methion the side effects you will get .......... but if you insist on it than by all means do but there will come a time when you question your self WHY did I not listen to bro's and use injections when i could have keeped 20 pound gains no water and look and feel that much better with No damage to my liver and kidneys ....... but hey happy Dball ... Note i would not advise any longer than 4-5 weeks useing dbal
    took the words right outta my mouth

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    I cant find the board anymore but there was a vet who made great gains off of 100mg ed for 10 weeks. I think he was running some test as well but it was less than 400mg if I rememebr correctly. Still impressive IMO. Not everyone has what it takes to get that much out of ti I suppose.

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    im not in support of a d-bol only cycle but a buddy of mine took a low dose of d-bol(15-20mg) for like 6 months straight, he made some steady gains on it and has kept them for the most part except for the water retention. Id never do it, but gear was scarse and he had come upon these so he said what the hey

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    Quote Originally Posted by cantspeak
    im not in support of a d-bol only cycle but a buddy of mine took a low dose of d-bol(15-20mg) for like 6 months straight, he made some steady gains on it and has kept them for the most part except for the water retention. Id never do it, but gear was scarse and he had come upon these so he said what the hey

    WOW.....hope he gets bloodwork done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cantspeak
    im not in support of a d-bol only cycle but a buddy of mine took a low dose of d-bol(15-20mg) for like 6 months straight, he made some steady gains on it and has kept them for the most part except for the water retention. Id never do it, but gear was scarse and he had come upon these so he said what the hey
    can u say..............................liver transplant

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    I have to disagree with everyone, and they can flame me all they want but my first was an 8 wk dbol ONLY 50mg max cycle as discussed with Mick H. It is one of the original and oldest steroids around, why cause it works, period. I had great strength increase, put some weight on and yeah I retained some water, that is just one of the properties of dbol. Had my blood work done and came back fine. I Ran nolv with it as well as liv52 throughout. But I will agree with everyone else, your gains will be much better and you will retain more if you add some test in it. It really isn't that bad bro to jab. The hardest one is the first, once you get that down you will be fine. IMO, if you only want to do the dbol, do it. Drink plenty of water, listen to your body if you start to get lower back pain, drop the dosage until it subsides. I highly recommend to run nolv and Liv52 throughout.
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    my 18 year old cousin just ran dbolonly for five weeks
    he gained 14 pounds, but then lost eight after
    so he gained 6 lbs. total
    you decide if you find that worthwile
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger909
    my 18 year old cousin just ran dbolonly for five weeks
    he gained 14 pounds, but then lost eight after
    so he gained 6 lbs. total
    you tell me if you find that worthwile

    6lbs for only 5 weeks.....I'll take it!

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    i did a d-bol only cycle in high school, second biggest mistake i ever made the couch gave it to us with out any thing . Kids lost hair and we did not keep our gains and we never even one one game the entire season.

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    its not woth the money and time when u could just run test.listen: i have a phobia of needles(and sharks, and wolfs). a clinical phobia but i still stick myself with needles because i know the outcome will be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj1capp
    i did a d-bol only cycle in high school, second biggest mistake i ever made the couch gave it to us with out any thing . Kids lost hair and we did not keep our gains and we never even one one game the entire season.
    lol that had to of blew badly

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    Dbol cycles can be done succesfully. Although it's not reccomended as there are much better options today.

    I did alot of research on this as I was interested myself..

    From what I have read 'Dbol only' works best in short heavy cycles (80mg+ ED for 4 - 6weeks) or the 'Dbol as a supplement' low dose longer cycles (10 - 15mg ED for 10 - 12 weeks).

    Dizzle

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    Why not just run Tbol instead if your only into orals much easier to keep your gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj1capp
    i did a d-bol only cycle in high school, second biggest mistake i ever made the couch gave it to us with out any thing . Kids lost hair and we did not keep our gains and we never even one one game the entire season.
    the reason you didn't keep your gains is cause no pct or proper diet and training, not the dbol only.

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    Dbol only cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    Dbol only cycles.
    finally someone agrees with me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    dude, I 've seen this thread so many times in my life...LOL.. Im an oral guy..
    Describe oral guy? Is that someone who prefers orals due to the liver toxic,harsh sides and poor gains or someone who is scared of needles. Why on earth anyone would want to run these cycles when they can avoid all this and just shoot a little test ect is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    Describe oral guy? Is that someone who prefers orals due to the liver toxic,harsh sides and poor gains or someone who is scared of needles. Why on earth anyone would want to run these cycles when they can avoid all this and just shoot a little test ect is beyond me.

    Now you're making it sound like all orals have harsh sides and yield poor gains....

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    Describe oral guy? Is that someone who prefers orals due to the liver toxic,harsh sides and poor gains or someone who is scared of needles. Why on earth anyone would want to run these cycles when they can avoid all this and just shoot a little test ect is beyond me.
    test is best m'friend!!

    BTW-hows the cycle going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Now you're making it sound like all orals have harsh sides and yield poor gains....
    IMO they do compared to other compounds. I would only ever use as a kick start and to be honest i wont even bother doing that again due to the terrible sides i got last time.

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    For bulking, dbol only is a waste of money.

    Buy some test, and run a proper cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer12
    finally someone agrees with me!!
    I couldn't resist using that smiley!

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    haha me too!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    IMO they do compared to other compounds. I would only ever use as a kick start and to be honest i wont even bother doing that again due to the terrible sides i got last time.
    But see, that is only YOUR experience. I can say that Dbol made me strong as shit and would use it again but more.

    What it comes down to is orals are typically harsh on the liver yes, but everyone is going to eract to them differently. I have a fine liver after my oral use af anavar and dbol, no problems at all.

    Now the "poor gains" aspect again, is only your experiecen and isnt writen in stone. On 100mg of anavar I noticed even BETTER weight gains that 40mg of Dbol and much much better strength gains. Either one wasnt nearly considered "poor" even with a relatively small dose of dbol.

    So basically, everyone can respond at least slightly differently and you will have to try them yourself, monitor your body and come to a conclusion of wether or not they are worth it for your specific body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    For bulking, dbol only is a waste of money.
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    For you.

    *edit: Dbol ONLY, yes add some injectables IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    Buy some test, and run a proper cycle.
    Test sucks for me but, I see your point. At least add some injectables and a replacement dose of test.

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    OK


    What's the difference in gaining 10lbs of muscle from orals compared to 10lbs of muscle from injectables?

    ^^

    So let me get this straight......You all are saying you will lose all your gains just because it's from an oral? That is retarded. When it's consumed by the body either orally or injected it's purpose is to build LBM. The body isn't telling itself.....I'll grow , but once I've added 10lbs of muscle I'm going to lose it just because it was from an oral not a injection....

    Now lets use dbol only as a example....

    You take it & you gain roughly 18lbs of SIZE. Ok this is a mix between fat/water & muscle .....Lets say you lose 10lbs of that which was mostly water weight anyways and a few lbs of muscle. So you've lost more than 50% of your gains! Thats horrible! Wrong. You kept most of your muscle.

    Just like Injectable test. If you don't use an anti E or an AI you will gain water/fat & muscle < just using as an example. But whats this after you dropped all the water your only left with about half your total weight gain. Thats horrible!

    I don't get how oral gains "disapeer" while "injectable" gains stay. There both muscle. Or are you all considering water to be gains.

    Sure orals are more liver toxic and mess with your HDL & LDL quite a bit. But that has nothing to do with gains maintained and gains lost.


    Ahh that was my rant. Now cuss me out.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
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    What's the difference in gaining 10lbs of muscle from orals compared to 10lbs of muscle from injectables?

    ^^

    So let me get this straight......You all are saying you will lose all your gains just because it's from an oral? That is retarded. When it's consumed by the body either orally or injected it's purpose is to build LBM. The body isn't telling itself.....I'll grow , but once I've added 10lbs of muscle I'm going to lose it just because it was from an oral not a injection....

    Now lets use dbol only as a example....

    You take it & you gain roughly 18lbs of SIZE. Ok this is a mix between fat/water & muscle .....Lets say you lose 10lbs of that which was mostly water weight anyways and a few lbs of muscle. So you've lost more than 50% of your gains! Thats horrible! Wrong. You kept most of your muscle.

    Just like Injectable test. If you don't use an anti E or an AI you will gain water/fat & muscle < just using as an example. But whats this after you dropped all the water your only left with about half your total weight gain. Thats horrible!

    I don't get how oral gains "disapeer" while "injectable" gains stay. There both muscle. Or are you all considering water to be gains.

    Sure orals are more liver toxic and mess with your HDL & LDL quite a bit. But that has nothing to do with gains maintained and gains lost.


    Ahh that was my rant. Now cuss me out.....


    Thats basically how it is. You seem to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    For you.

    *edit: Dbol ONLY, yes add some injectables IMO.




    Test sucks for me but, I see your point. At least add some injectables and a replacement dose of test.
    What I ment was that dbol should be used as a kick-start to a cycle, and should not be the base of a cycle.

    You should have a different base like test, and only use dbol as a kick start.

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    LOL this topic has been debated for years and years ......... but bottem line is that we all at one point have done a dball cycle ........ I myself did and it was early in the game ....... I gained like 20 pounds and 7 weeks later dropped 15 pounds keeped 5 now some would say that wow ok 5 pounds not bad ....... but i did get a blood test and I cant remember what was what now but i was fcked up pretty good But hey thats me............ but when looked at when doing inject test like test e VRS dball only well the gains are much better and recovery is much better not to methion that my liver was better off as well ........... so IMO yes DBAll works but not as well when looking and comparing to other test ........

    But I once had the idea about dball only cycles and a old timer that was a good gym bro and a friend said to me ......... well moon shine is a fine drink but i would not want to drink it every day ......... LOL i know it sounds stupid But made sense to me

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