Steroids while on Benicar

[jsimon]

Well guys my doc put me on the blood pressure pill called Benicar. It is very mild. As recently I have been put on it due to my last cycle causing me to faint and be put into ER due to almost having a stroke I guess??. Anyways they scanned my heart and did all of that stuff. Reasoning that I just now have high blood pressure problems. Obviously the doc doesnt know im on juice and he will never know. Just getting some opinions. While being on Benicar 20mg a day. Should I be fine for my next cycle down the road???? Will the Benicar stop the roids from shooting my blood pressure through the roof? I was NOT on a blood pressure medicine on my last cycle. Nor in the past.

[Bigmax]

Hey bro,which benicar are you on???does it have the diuretic in it???If not the benicar that you're on is weak and wont help during AAS...you may have to go on the benicar 40mg with 25 mg hydroclorizide(diuretic too spill your water)...If all goes well you'll be fine otherwise you may be on 1 or 2 more medications.

[jsimon]

Its the weak benicar then. It does not have a diuretic in it. How the hell do I approach my doctor asking for a stronger blood pressure medicine?? He will think somthing is up.

[Erwin]

Tell him the truth.

[jsimon]

No. I have had to many friends have bad expierences with thier doctors. My one friend has been going to his doctor for 12 years, thought he was great was really personal with him...what did the doctor do? Write that on his medical records that he had tried juice. He now cannot get life insurance.
This same problem has happened with my other friend as well. Now everythime he goes into the doctors cause of pain that bring up the roid usage when it has nothing to do with his problems. I am not even that close with my current doctor.

[Maldorf]

I am on the 40mg tabs and have the experience to say that it keeps my BP under control reasonably during a cycle. I also use arimidex daily to keep down bloat. My tabs dont have the diuretic in them either.

[Bigmax]

Bro,I beleive honesty is the best policy...However I do understand your concern...you know what? its your health so you have a choice....Dont do ASS or take the time out like I did and get another doctor.The benicar you're on will not help during AAS use....you need the stronger one or something like TARKA or LOTREL...there is a new one out called AVALIDE it had a diuretic in it aswell.

[stupidhippo]

I understand u, I wouldnt tell if I was u.. its not like he can help u in this matter anymore if he would know. What is the active ingredient in BenicaR? We have different brand names here.. You can just not take the meds and go to him again and make him prescribe u sumin with a diuretic... Bigmax: u sure an ace inhibitor wont cut it if he doesnt do anabolics that cause a lot of bloat? Jsimon: u could also explain ur situation more thoroughly, what medical conditions u have and what else would we need to know before advising u. There are some ppl here with quite a bit of knowledge. also take advise u get from here with a grain of salt, as there are a lot of knowledgable bros here also sometimes u see really bad (even dangerous) advise..

[Maldorf]

Bro,I beleive honesty is the best policy...However I do understand your concern...you know what? its your health so you have a choice....Dont do ASS or take the time out like I did and get another doctor.The benicar you're on will not help during AAS use....you need the stronger one or something like TARKA or LOTREL...there is a new one out called AVALIDE it had a diuretic in it aswell.

The benicar tabs I am taking, just the ACE Inhibitor, do a fine job controlling my BP while on AAS. Im using dbol and test right now and its just fine. I do take the 40mg tabs though, and use arimidex to help control bloat. Everybody is different though, and it may not work for him like it does me. I would give it a try.

[jsimon]

So Could I just take 2 20mg? would it be the same as one 40mg?. On the bottle it says olmesartan medoxomil. My next cycle will be a test and deca.

[Bigmax]

I understand u, I wouldnt tell if I was u.. its not like he can help u in this matter anymore if he would know. What is the active ingredient in BenicaR? We have different brand names here.. You can just not take the meds and go to him again and make him prescribe u sumin with a diuretic... Bigmax: u sure an ace inhibitor wont cut it if he doesnt do anabolics that cause a lot of bloat? Jsimon: u could also explain ur situation more thoroughly, what medical conditions u have and what else would we need to know before advising u. There are some ppl here with quite a bit of knowledge. also take advise u get from here with a grain of salt, as there are a lot of knowledgable bros here also sometimes u see really bad (even dangerous) advise..

Bro,i'll agree with you about knowlegable guys and some bro giving god awful advise just like the one you just gave by telling this guy NOT to tell his doctor cause he wouldnt be able to help anyway????Are you serious??My BP was high and I went to my doc....told him the truth and we worked from there.he can give us all his history and WE couldnt help him cause we are ...or most of us anyway arent doctors...I'm speaking from my experience!!!I'm on Benicar with hydroclirizde(diuretic)and when ON cycle my BP is not under full control.I usually have to ad something else....I told him to speak to his doc...Now jismon...you said about talikng 2 of the 20mgs...bro I'm not going to tell you to take that ...i dont know your condition.What I will tell you is this if you plan to continue AAS then this isnt something to play with and I would research further as I did.

[jsimon]

alright. Thanks for the much needed advice. Just not trying to die .

[stupidhippo]

well I dont think my adcvise is bad cause some docs really make u pay for ur honesty. Agreed I dont know that much about the american system but Ive heard many stories when telling the doc ends up biting u in the ass. Secondly Im one year away from working as a doctor and Im presently working this summer at a hospital as a kind of trainee kind of doctor (dont know whats the american equivalent) and everything gets marked up into the electrical files. Officilally they are only for medical puroposes but Ive seen manmy cases where some one has a steroid/drug marking there and evey visit after they get treated like shit. Docs blame the juice and dont prescribe meds cause they think they will abuse them etc... more complex situation IMO and I stand by my previous statement. and there is nothing a general GP can say about BP / juice that I cannot also do..

[Maldorf]

My advice would be to use the 20mgday as prescribed and see how it works for you while on cycle. IF it doesnt control the BP then you can see the doctor again and he will make a change in your prescription. You will then visit him again a few weeks later and see where you are. I originally started out at 20mg/day and it wasnt enough, so the doc increased it to 40mg/day. You are going to need the doctor no matter what, might as well use his experience and services.

[stupidhippo]

agreed with maldorf except I still wouldnt say the doc Im using, unless I really trust the guy..

[Maldorf]

agreed with maldorf except I still wouldnt say the doc Im using, unless I really trust the guy..

I told my doc, wish I hadnt. Im worried about trouble in future with health insurance and life insurance. I dont think he has to tell his doc that he is using AAS. If his blood pressure is high, the doc doesnt have to know what might be causing it to be higher. He will change his course of action if the current prescription regime isnt working regaurdless of his knowledge of the AAS.

[jsimon]

Well I was just informed by somone.....that since test holds in water. It may be bad to go on it without have a diurectic in the BP medicine cause the heart can fill up with water very easily.

[stupidhippo]

ok... but just telling u that ace-inhibitors also manipulate the water-balance.. indirectly its also a diuretic.. IMO if ur BP is under control with whatever u are taking now u should be fine. For the heart to fill up with water u would have to be in heart-failure.

[Bigmax]

Well I was just informed by somone.....that since test holds in water. It may be bad to go on it without have a diurectic in the BP medicine cause the heart can fill up with water very easily.

Thank you bro...as i said do more research...dont just listen to me bro...and I'm on benicar with hydiclorize in it...you're doing the right thing by looking further in to it.

[Bigmax]

ok... but just telling u that ace-inhibitors also manipulate the water-balance.. indirectly its also a diuretic.. IMO if ur BP is under control with whatever u are taking now u should be fine. For the heart to fill up with water u would have to be in heart-failure.

Bro this in no way an offense towards you...but you're not adoctor...and we are in america.Here you have to go to college then medical school...what did you say ?? you were working as a trainee doctor???How can youtell this guy that he would be ok if his BP is ok now he should be ok...do you forget what some of the adverse reaction to AAS are???High BP,High RBC that can lead to High BP...water retention that can lead again to high BP...would you like me to continue?? he needs to be ready for the rise of his BP upon using AAS point blank...and some of the advise you're giving him just doesnt seem to be in his best interest.

[Maldorf]

He may not have to resort to using the diuretic. I would say try going on your cycle using the benicar prescription you have, and if the BP gets high again see the doc again. He will change your prescription to give you results. Thats what I did, I was on just 20mb benicar and it wasnt enough so we tried 40mg/day and that did the trick for me. Keep in mind I always use a Arimidex to fight the bloat, could use a more powerful anti-a if you want.