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    Wonting advice on first cycle.

    Im planning out my first cycle and was hopping for some feedback on this. What do you guys think of this cycle for a first time cycle… Iv done some PH/PS B4 (superdrol and Phera-Plex), but never the real deal. Im 5’9” and my weight has stayed just shy of 200 pounds for a while now, with right at 10% BF.

    EQ 500mg/wk weeks 1-11
    Test E 600mg/wk weeks 1-12
    Proviron 50mg a day.

    For PCT:
    Nolvadex : week 1- 50mg a day
    Week 2- 40mg a day
    After that 20mg a day until I feel my test level are back to normal.

    PS. Im not worried about hair loss.

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    Welcome to AR bro...most guys will tell you that for a first cycle 1 compound is best...TestE to be exact...But honestly the cycle you have laid out looks fine.How old are you???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    Welcome to AR bro...most guys will tell you that for a first cycle 1 compound is best...TestE to be exact...But honestly the cycle you have laid out looks fine.How old are you???
    Thanks. Im 23 years old.

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    Ok...good luck and let us know how you do.

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    I would drop the EQ, no need for additional compounds on your first cycle test should be all you need and if you have built a good solid base from years of training and diet then you will gain great with just test only,
    Last edited by marcus300; 08-28-2006 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    I would drop the EQ, no need for additional compounds on your first cycle test should be all you need and if you have built a good solid base from years of training and diet then you will gain great with just test only,
    The reason for Marcus telling you this is why use more for the same. would you buy a shoe for $100 when you can get the same shoes for $50.. think about it.

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    One of the reasons I decided to put the EQ in there is because the increased levels of EPO that it causes, and even though I wont to bulk up and get bigger (which is obviously my goal) I Have to maintain the ability to be a distance runner (for my job) over the next 3 and 1/2 years. I know that may sound kind of odd (trying to be a body builder while being a distance runner), but thats what I have to deal with.
    With that said, do you guys still think I should drop the EQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph592
    One of the reasons I decided to put the EQ in there is because the increased levels of EPO that it causes, and even though I wont to bulk up and get bigger (which is obviously my goal) I Have to maintain the ability to be a distance runner (for my job) over the next 3 and 1/2 years. I know that may sound kind of odd (trying to be a body builder while being a distance runner), but thats what I have to deal with.
    With that said, do you guys still think I should drop the EQ?
    You realize EPO is a synthetic product used to increase your RBC count, manufactured by Procrit and Epogen

    EQ increases your RBC, not your EPO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mealticket
    You realize EPO is a synthetic product used to increase your RBC count, manufactured by Procrit and Epogen

    EQ increases your RBC, not your EPO
    I am pretty sure that EPO is a nateral hormone that will increas your RBC. That some hormone is sythesised and sold by Procrit and Epogen. And I am pretty sure EQ increases your RBC by increasing your EOP, which is what actually raises your RBC.

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    YOU DONT NEED ANY OTHER COMPOUNDS FOR YOUR FIRST CYCLE,

    Just use test only and see how you react to it, if you have built a good solid base of years of training and diet you will have great gains with test only, no need to introduce EQ, more is not better even for the first cycle, you should be like a dry sponge and will soak everything up,

    Test +good basic diet+ intense training program + deication = quality gains

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    If you have the EQ already, just save it till you do your next cycle

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    do you stop proviron at the same time your last injection ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    YOU DONT NEED ANY OTHER COMPOUNDS FOR YOUR FIRST CYCLE,

    Just use test only and see how you react to it, if you have built a good solid base of years of training and diet you will have great gains with test only, no need to introduce EQ, more is not better even for the first cycle, you should be like a dry sponge and will soak everything up,

    Test +good basic diet+ intense training program + deication = quality gains
    Joseph, Marcus is giving you sound advice and I agree with him, as would many other vets. Just use the Test E for your first cycle. Save the EQ for later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph592
    One of the reasons I decided to put the EQ in there is because the increased levels of EPO that it causes, and even though I wont to bulk up and get bigger (which is obviously my goal) I Have to maintain the ability to be a distance runner (for my job) over the next 3 and 1/2 years. I know that may sound kind of odd (trying to be a body builder while being a distance runner), but thats what I have to deal with.
    With that said, do you guys still think I should drop the EQ?


    That's like trying to be a gluttonist and anorexic at the same time.
    Last edited by Hellmaskbanned; 08-31-2006 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    YOU DONT NEED ANY OTHER COMPOUNDS FOR YOUR FIRST CYCLE,Just use test only and see how you react to it, if you have built a good solid base of years of training and diet you will have great gains with test only, no need to introduce EQ, more is not better even for the first cycle, you should be like a dry sponge and will soak everything up,

    Test +good basic diet+ intense training program + deication = quality gains
    Nuff said.

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