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08-28-2006, 12:14 PM #1Associate Member
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Extreme Cycle... Could I die... seriously
Ok this is my third cycle and right now i am way behind where i need to be. I injured my knee 1 year ago today i got the surgery done and the football coach at my D1AA school will not accept anything less then the numbers he gave me. I am sooooo far behind this is the only way. I would say train harder but these are unreachable goals without the juice. 23yrs old and 3rd cycle all because of football. Don't get me wrong i work hard do all major football lifts but i work 40 hours per week and school 17hours a week and gym two hours a day.... theres only so many hours.
Here is my next cycle and i want to know could i die with all these chemicals
Test Ent 750mg weeks1-13
Test Prop 100mg EOD weeks1-7
EQ 600mg weeks1-10
Deca 600mg weeks1-10
Dbol 40mg/ED weeks1-4
Nolvadex 20mg/ED weeks1-18
HCG 500IUs/EOD weeks 4-6, 9-11, and 12-15
Letro .25 E/D weeks5-12
Cytomel Tamper up 75mcg/ED weeks 7-11
Accutane 10mgE/D weeks 1-20
Clomid Tamper Down Routine Listed on the board weeks 14-17
Liv-52 2 pills daily weeks 1-20
Vitamin B6 200mg E/D weeks 1-12
Animal Pack once daily
Last Cycle included.... test cyp, prop, winstrol , deca and of coarse proper pct
My question is very serious could i die? The only way i go to college is if i play football so no school no job no job no home no home and im on the streets so everything leads back to me having to complete these goals... I know that is an extreme amount for a kid my age. I have done one large cycle before that... do people feel im at least being smart with all the prop accicleries on hand and could this really hurt me in the long run.
No flaming serious responses only... just want to know my chances of not having heart failure or liver malfunctions... please take this seriously
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08-28-2006, 12:22 PM #2
thats not a bad cycle at all ihave seen a lot lot worse just ask TAI lol.
if your running letro through your cycle i see no need running the nolva all the way through just leave that for pctno open source posting
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08-28-2006, 12:24 PM #3
You dont die from injecting AAS. There are plenty of guys who use a lot more than you. But anyways if you were to die it would be from the heart problems more than likely, high blood pressure and or clotting etc, causing a heart attack or even a stroke or something. But there is not set limit or cycle that we can look at and say "oh ya...hes a goner with that one." Just impossible to tell.
The cycle isnt very good imo, but if you wanna run it just be sure to get bloodwork done and what not to make sure you are always within healthy ranges and not putting yourself at risk.
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08-28-2006, 12:26 PM #4
Yes you could die, but more than likely you'll just fuk your hormone levels up and make for a very hard recovery, depending on how your diet/training is once you come off the cycle most gains will probably be lost.
But all in all it's a nice cycle for someone who has everything down perfectly, which is sounds like you're not that guy.-B D
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08-28-2006, 12:28 PM #5Associate Member
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Ok thanks stocky( i feel a little better)
Cbino obviously i know AAS itself isnt going to kill you but in the gym i do alot of cleans and deadlifts and i just dont want my heart to explode so that's what i was asking but you pretty much answered that there is no set amount... and why is the cycle bad IYO
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08-28-2006, 12:31 PM #6National Level Bodybuilder
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Originally Posted by ProUser910
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08-28-2006, 12:33 PM #7Associate Member
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Why dont i have everything down perfectly... im an exercise science major univerisity... so training and dieting is in check
had a major knee surgery on three ligaments so my stats have gone down and the program expects me to be up and running by next year...
how could you say i don't have everything in check when i just did months on researching what chemicals to take and when to take them and put together a nice looking advanced cycle then you say i don't have everything in check when i list all my PCT and not to mention im an exersice science major
... i think people like to flame more than help when questions are asked on this particular board although stocky121 gave a reasonable comment
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08-28-2006, 12:38 PM #8Associate Member
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thank you Mrmention. i will keep that in mind when im in my apartment cooking on the grill instead of eating at the universitys dinning commons
i dont nessecarily think more compounds... youll get bigger but again i only take the deca because it helps SO much on my knee other than that id drop it... EQ was in two cycles ago and my BF went down and an extreme vascularity was gained.... i got the test prop for free and i acctually do want to take 400mg more test than any other compound so therefore combining that with the ent. will do that and the dbol was free so i could always use dbol and t/3 is because theyre moving me to strong safety and all throughout highschool i played Linebacker but at this school theyre stacked with that position so he wants me to be 220 with 5-8 percent body fat and i felt with the increase in appetite you get with the EQ the only way to burn it off is with the cytomel plus by then ill prob be around 230-240 with the dbol and prop so that will lean me out
but thank you very intelligent response... and there is mine
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08-28-2006, 12:44 PM #9National Level Bodybuilder
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Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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08-28-2006, 12:49 PM #10National Level Bodybuilder
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Originally Posted by ProUser910
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08-28-2006, 12:52 PM #11Associate Member
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Thank you, honestly i need to look like you picture in the coach's vision or i aint playing and i need whatever positive advice i can get... im taking 5 count them 5 anti-estrogens or horomone recovery aids... how is that enough... what else do you suggest so i dont f them up dont just say youll f up all your horomones then say the cycle sucks... shyt took me 3 months to figure it out and ive gone on about 10 different boards just to figure this out... seems like this board you got half the people trying to help and the other half just put down
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08-28-2006, 12:57 PM #12Originally Posted by MrMent1on
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Originally Posted by ProUser910
There is a few things you can tweek.
This is how i would run it.
Test Ent 750mg weeks1-13
Test Prop 100mg EOD weeks1-5 150mg eod or 75mg day.
test prop 12-15 right up to pct
EQ 600mg weeks1-11
Deca 600mg weeks1-10
Dbol 40mg/ED weeks1-4
Nolvadex 20mg/ED weeks1-18 I would drop this and just have it on hane and for pct
HCG 500IUs/EOD weeks 4-6, 9-11, and 12-15
Letro .25 E/D weeks5-12
Cytomel Tamper up 75mcg/ED weeks 7-11
Accutane 10mgE/D weeks 5-pct. your not going to brake out till later in the cycle and throw pct. Pct is were your going to get the most acne. So why not run it throw.
Clomid Tamper Down Routine Listed on the board weeks 15-17 you need to start week 15
Liv-52 2 pills daily weeks 1-20
Vitamin B6 200mg E/D weeks 1-12
Animal Pack once dailyLast edited by G-1000; 08-28-2006 at 01:05 PM.
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08-28-2006, 01:08 PM #14Associate Member
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GsXXr... that sounds great... good idea with the prop and ya with the nolvadex thats kind of what i had in mind... i always have it on hand but by 18 if i feel good then ya im stoping it there... and thanks for the clomid advice im reading the pct and ya 2 weeks after i start is a better time... and i can do that with the eq also so those changes are being made
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08-28-2006, 01:09 PM #15
Bloodwork needs to be done every 4 weeks IMO.
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08-28-2006, 01:11 PM #16Associate Member
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I am scared with my BP... these are the negative concerns on my part... ya i may have been extreme by flat out using the word dying... but high BP and a heart attack could be fatal... also a stroke among other things with the risks... id love to hear from someone who kept there BP in check using the two and how they did it?
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08-28-2006, 01:13 PM #17Associate Member
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If i get bloodwork done every four weeks... i can't see my doctor he lives in my original state... remember i am down here at school 1500 miles away... i have access to a BP machine obv the drug stores but what else would need to be checked on because the little health department on campus probably isn't going to do bloodwork on a steroid user who is by the way breaking ncca rules
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your young just keep sodium intake low.
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08-28-2006, 01:13 PM #19
I would be watching for RBC problems too. If you start feeling weak and tired all the time get it checked.
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Originally Posted by ProUser910
Just make friend with the people in the infirmary so you can go get checked 1 a week.
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I say we should kick this sysle up and make it a real Extreme one.
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08-28-2006, 01:19 PM #22Originally Posted by ProUser910
If you cant keep track of how your body is coping with all these additional chemicals, I wouldnt be cycling.
I dont feel enough people get bloodwork done any way doing standard test only 250-500mg/wk cycles. Your doses, durations and number of compounds makes it a lot more important to get it done. And more often.
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08-28-2006, 01:20 PM #23Associate Member
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Lol all the comments are really helpful... ive been to the infarimry once here and its old nurses... they didnt even have pennicylinn lol for strep throat they gave me robotussin...... HB.... robotussin...... heart attack....... robotussin that seems to be there answer there is a hospital very near by but not sure if insurance covers is but im going to give it a try... my diet is great and ill make sure it's that much better and keep sodium levels down... anyone know any natural vitamin maybe i should take??
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Just haveing some fun. This is some food for thought.
Test Ent 1g weeks1-13
Test Prop 125mg ED weeks1-4 and 12-15
Npp 100 mg ED 1-5 10-14
EQ 600mg weeks1-11
Deca 600mg weeks1-10
Drol 1000mg/ED weeks1-4
HCG 500IUs/EOD weeks 4-6, 9-11, and 12-15
Letro .5 E/D weeks5-12
Cytomel Tamper up 75mcg/ED weeks 7-11
Accutane 10mgE/D weeks 5-25
Clomid Tamper Down Routine Listed on the board weeks 14-17
Nolv 40mg ed 13-pct
Liv-52 2 pills daily weeks 1-20
Vitamin B6 200mg E/D weeks 1-12
Animal Pack once daily
Now we have a bad ass cycle.
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08-28-2006, 01:27 PM #25Associate Member
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ahah i don't know man im a college student living off a tight budget i just got a great connect plus a few friends went through me thats how i have that gear already... im not rich by any means and that cycle only cost 400 bucks out of my pocket
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08-28-2006, 01:28 PM #26Originally Posted by gsxxr
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Best of luck. If you need any thing you know how to find me.
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Originally Posted by 2.minutes
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08-28-2006, 01:36 PM #29Associate Member
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im excited now that i got all this positive info... i live in a southern state so i was thinking this march im either going to be the biggest guy at the beach or have the biggest coffin made for me.... but everyone gave me positive insight.... now all i gotta wory about is keeping my skin clear... hoping the drop of accutane which has been reported to work well without the sides for people with low acne also the sun and tanning if the deca makes my back look like it did will clear that up...
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08-28-2006, 01:38 PM #30Associate Member
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haha one of my roomates just joked to me when am i gonna make it a real cycle and thro some hgh in there.... what do people think about that
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to young no need.
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08-28-2006, 01:53 PM #32National Level Bodybuilder
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Originally Posted by gsxxr
Also I told you I did the EQ/Deca combo, I did 600mg/ 600mg/ weekly. honestly I didnt worry about HBP, but this was a few years ago.
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08-28-2006, 03:04 PM #33
yea the 1000mg of drol better b a typo lol
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08-28-2006, 04:01 PM #34Originally Posted by Liftnainez
Best of luck to you bro..Im definately not going to knock you for doing this cycle at a young age when you have basically described that your future and life depend on being back into shape. Just think, there are plenty of dudes in football with no knowledge of AAS running horrible cycles so I'd say you have one up on them...Good luck!
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08-28-2006, 09:36 PM #35Associate Member
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All the comments have been more than helpfull.... and trust me the gear wont go to waste... all this means is more cleans more deads and an even tighter diet
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08-28-2006, 09:44 PM #36Originally Posted by MrMent1on
He just came out of an injury/surgery, so from what he said it doesn't seem he is at 100%. It was my opinion based on the information given, and this quote alone made me think he wasn't ready for anabolics:
"Ok this is my third cycle and right now i am way behind where i need to be. I injured my knee 1 year ago today i got the surgery done and the football coach at my D1AA school will not accept anything less then the numbers he gave me. The coach is pushing him to juice, I don't agree with that. I am sooooo far behind this is the only way. Many young atheletes think this, because they're not willing to work as hard as the guy beside them or the coaches or their friends convince them anabolics vastly improve your performance. I would say train harder but these are unreachable goals without the juice and you think this cycle will make you attain the goals put infront of you? 23yrs old and 3rd cycle all because of football. Don't get me wrong i work hard do all major football lifts but i work 40 hours per week and school 17hours a week and gym two hours a day.... theres only so many hours." Seems you need to make practice/diet/training more of a priority instead of leaning on anabolics to make up for your lack of discipline..
Btw, MrMent.. I didn't ask if you like my opinion on the matter nor do I care, so you give yours and I'll give mine, just lookin out for the guy.. Anyone who thinks they might die off a mickey mouse cycle like the one mentioned above obviously is a bit on the nieve side about anabolics and doesn't need to run such an advanced cycle. again JMO.. don't get so upset, just skim past this and move on.
Also you guys are recommending a cycle to someone whom you don't even know his position on the team/previous cycle history/barely know his stats/goals from cycle/not to mention you'll are bodybuilders recommending a cycle for a football player.. gimme a break.. I would give very different recommendations depending on what his role on the team is and position be played. A linebacker would need different compounds IMO then say a Offensive lineman.Last edited by IBdmfkr; 08-28-2006 at 09:56 PM.
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08-28-2006, 09:46 PM #37Originally Posted by gsxxr
My mom did this exact same cycle..gained 60lbs but now she want us to call her dad.
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08-28-2006, 09:53 PM #38
Maybe I missed this, but how much muscle/lbs (stregnth) are you trying to gain?
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08-28-2006, 09:56 PM #39Associate Member
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Dude the only advice I have for you is that the bp machines in the stores are bullshit, have the team doctor check you bp every week theres no harm in that, as far as the cycle goes I'm doing my first, so I don't know shit. Good Luck! and uhh keep some heating pads on hand, pin cusion.
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08-28-2006, 10:00 PM #40
extreme cycle ...could I die...seriously
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