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    l Viruz l is offline Junior Member
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    First Cycle coming up.

    IM getting ready to order my first cycle, 500mg Test E/week , 20mg nolva/PD.
    for 12 weeks, and i plan on using the Clomid PCT method.

    Anways i was wondering if theres anything else i could do to help keep gains after pct. and ive herd it takes up to 3-4 weeks for the test E to release, i was thinking about taking something else to jump start it maybe test prop or Dbol . Injecting alot isnt a problem for me, and one more thing do you think it would be better to go ahead and use the nolva every day or just wait and see if signs of gyno start showing up? Thnx


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    never cycled before.
    Last edited by l Viruz l; 08-28-2006 at 11:47 PM.

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    Are you serious, or is your height a TYPO

    If you are 6' 11" and only weigh 185, RUN dont walk to the grocery store or the butcher and eat a cow!!!

    Even if you are 5'11, I would say you need a bit more natural mass before you consider using AAS. it will be a waste for you if you can't put on weight naturally at least get closer to 200lbs if you expect to grow

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    Are you serious, or is your height a TYPO

    If you are 6' 11" and only weigh 185, RUN dont walk to the grocery store or the butcher and eat a cow!!!

    Even if you are 5'11, I would say you need a bit more natural mass before you consider using AAS. it will be a waste for you if you can't put on weight naturally at least get closer to 200lbs if you expect to grow
    HAHAHAHAHHA, holy sh!t, that made me lol hardcore!

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    at 6ft 11 he should get closer to 235! Damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    Are you serious, or is your height a TYPO

    If you are 6' 11" and only weigh 185, RUN dont walk to the grocery store or the butcher and eat a cow!!!
    Even if you are 5'11, I would say you need a bit more natural mass before you consider using AAS. it will be a waste for you if you can't put on weight naturally at least get closer to 200lbs if you expect to grow


    ROFLROFL!!! my bad 5"11. typo, lmfao thats great

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    Quote Originally Posted by l Viruz l
    ROFLROFL!!! my bad 5"11. typo

    OK great, then the rest of my post still stands!! what are your goals for using AAS??

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    rofl dam im still rollin, anyways i have a "Really high metabolism", its always been hard to gain weight but ive managed. my goals right now are to gain alot of lean mass and weigh in around 220-225.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l Viruz l
    rofl dam im still rollin, anyways i have a "Really high metabolism", its always been hard to gain weight but ive managed. my goals right now are to gain alot of lean mass and weigh in around 220-225.

    OK, its late, I am tired, This has been covered a million times here, and I am on cycle and moody, so if I coem across harsh here I will apoligize now.

    High metabolism is the GOAL of evey athlete except maybe Sumo Wrestlers. High metabolism burns fat. If you are NOT eating correctly it will also burn muscle. Using AAS without proper food intake ( number of meals, and proper micronutrient management) will do you absolutly NO better than not using them.

    The key to growth is to EAT and train heavy.
    If you are NOT eating at least 6 meals a day ( more for bulking) spaced every 2.5-3 hours apart containing Complete proteins, low GI carbs, and good fats, then you WILL NOT GROW with or with out AAS

    I am currently 5'11" 225lbs, a typical day food intake for me is:

    meal 1 2 whole eggs
    12 egg whites
    4 oz. breakfast steak
    8 oz oatmeal
    1/2 grapefruit

    meal 2 16 oz lean steak
    16 oz brown rice

    mea 3 16 oz chicken breast
    12 oz plain sweet potato

    meal 4 two cans tuna fish
    salsa
    8 oz brown rice

    meal 5 meal replacement shake
    20g protein pudding

    meal 6 8 oz chicken breast
    8 oz brown rice


    If your diet doesn't look anything like this, that is where you need to start BEORE ever using any AAs


    Hope this wasn't too harsh. again WELCOME TO AR goodnght....lolol

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