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    Arrow Sustanon250

    heard a lot of mixed comments on this so ere it gos, wot wud be the best way 2 get the most out of the prop in sus rather than adding a oral 2 kick start cycle as i cnt c how 500mg E/W of sus wud be benificle seen as prop is run E/D. obviously theres the point that sus contains 4 esters but cud sum1 point me in the right direction.

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    i can only tell u what i did. i shot 600mg of sus (300mg every tue & fri). i am very happy with the results of that. i did kickstart so to speak with 40mg of dbol ED.

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    just start off your sus cycle shooting EOD..and continue shooting EOD for the best possible results

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    just start off your sus cycle shooting EOD..and continue shooting EOD for the best possible results

    EOD?? i thought sus 500mg its shot twice a week only ? why dose it EOD ? if it is then you will be injecting 1000mg of sus per week ? monday wed friday sunday 250mg each day total 1000mg per week!

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    Shot it twice a week. That's all that is needed. Sus has a short, med and long ester in it. Therefore no reason to use an oral.

    Jesus you guys if we are going to shoot EOD, you may as well just use prop which mg for mg is stronger then SUS and cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surrender
    Shot it twice a week. That's all that is needed. Sus has a short, med and long ester in it. Therefore no reason to use an oral.

    Jesus you guys if we are going to shoot EOD, you may as well just use prop which mg for mg is stronger then SUS and cheaper.
    obviously not just using it 4 the prop

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    sustanon250

    Quote Originally Posted by tonytone
    just start off your sus cycle shooting EOD..and continue shooting EOD for the best possible results
    YUP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elitetky
    just start off your sus cycle shooting EOD..and continue shooting EOD for the best possible results

    EOD?? i thought sus 500mg its shot twice a week only ? why dose it EOD ? if it is then you will be injecting 1000mg of sus per week ? monday wed friday sunday 250mg each day total 1000mg per week!
    YES, in my opinion sus should be shot EOD for best results..yes you can shoot it less frequently, but i believe that best results are achieved w sus when shot EOD

    YOU DONT HAVE TO SHOOT 1 ml (250mg) EOD...IT IS POSSIBLE TO SHOOT LESS THAN 1 ml EACH TIME YOU SHOOT..

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    EOD it is thn. thnx

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    I disagee sus should not be EOD ...... just becasue of the prop estor is short there are three other long estors sus was designed for long lasting up to 30 days with 1 injection ........... thus the build up of the long estors buy shooting EOD ............. if so conserend about the prop estor as it hase been done for years add 50mg of prop eod along with the sus if its a big consern ....... but IMO 2X per week is plenty or even once a week
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    erm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarKOmeN
    erm...

    Remark: Testosterone propionate 30mg, Testosterone phenylpropionate 60 mg, Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg, Testosterone decanoate 100 mg

    Sustanon is a very popular steroid which is highly appreciated by its users since it offers several advantages when compared to other testosterone compounds. Sustanon is a mixture of four different testosterones which, based on the well-timed composition, have a synergetic effect. This special feature has two positive characteristics for the athlete. First, based on the special combination effect of the compounds, Sustanon, milligram for milligram, has a better effect than Testosterone enanthate , cypionate , and propionate alone. Second, the effect of the four testosterones is time released so that Sustanon goes rapidly into the system and remains effective in the body for several weeks. Due to the propionate also included in the steroid, Sustanon is effective after one day and, based on the mixed in decanoates, remains active for 3-4 weeks. Sustanon has a distinct androgenic effect which is coupled with a strong anabolic effect. Therefore it is well suited to build up strength and mass. A rapid increase in body strength and an even increase in body weight occur. Athletes who use Sustanon report a solid muscle growth since it results in less water retention and also aromatizes less than either testosterone enanthate or cypionate. Indeed many bodybuilders who use testosterone and fight against distinct water retention and an elevated estrogen level prefer Sustanon over other long-acting depot testosterones.

    It is further noticed that Sustanon is also effective when relatively low doses are given to well advanced athletes- It is interesting to note that when Sustanon is given to athletes who have already used this compound in the same or lower doses, it leads to similar good results as during the previous intake. Sustanon is usually injected at least once a week, which can be stretched up to 10 days. The dosage in bodybuilding and powerlifting ranges from 250 mg every 14 days up to 1000 mg or more per day. Since such high dosages are not recommended-and fortunately are also not taken in most cases-the rule is 250-1000 mg/week. A dosage of 500 mg/week is completely sufficient for most, and can often be reduced to 250-mg/ week by combining Sustanon with an oral steroid. Sustanon is well tolerated as a basic steroid during treatment which stimulates the regeneration, gives the athlete a sufficient "kick" for intense training units, and next to the already mentioned advantage-rapid strength increase and solid muscle gain distinguishes itself also by its compatibility. In order to gain mass fast Sustanon is often combined with Deca -Durabolin , Dianabol or Anadrol while athletes who are more into quality prefer combining it with Parabolan , Winstrol , Oxandrolone or Primobolan .

    Although Sustanon does not aromatize excessively when taken in a reasonable dosage many people, in addition, also take an antiestrogen such as Nolvadex and/or Proviron to prevent possible estrogen-linked side effects. Since Sustanon suppresses the endogenous testosterone production the intake of HCG and Clomid must be considered after six weeks or at the end of treatment. It is recommended that women not take depot testosterones since the androgen level would strongly increase and virilization symptoms could result. Despite this, it is not uncommon for female competing athletes in the higher weight classes to take testosterone since it helps in remaining "competitive." Women who use "Testo" or who would like to try it should limit its use to either only testosterone propionate or inject a maximum of 250 mg Sustanon every 10-14 days over a period of no longer than six weeks. At this point we would like to emphasize once more that steroid novices should stay away from all testosterone compounds since, at this time, they simply do not need them. The side effects of Sustanon are similar to those of Testosterone enanthate (see also Testosterone enanthate) only that they are usu-ally less frequent and less severe. Depending on the predisposition and dosage, the user can experience the usual androgenic-linked side effects such as acne, aggressiveness, sexual overstimulation, oily skin, accelerated hair loss, and reduced production of the body's own hormones. Water retention and gynecomastia are usually within limits with the "Sustas" or are not as massive as with enanthate and cypionate. Liver damage is unlikely with Sustanon (see Test-osterone enanthate); however, in very high dosages, elevated liver values can occur which, after discontinuing use of the compound, usually go back to normal. The fact that the liver is a very efficient organ and able to cope well with higher quantities of testosterone is confirmed in the book Doping-verbotene Arzneimittel im Sport by Dirk Clasing and Manfred Donike. On page 54 the authors state: "The liver is able to metabolize an almost unlimited amount of testosterone (2 g of rat liver are able to break down 100 mg/day of testosterone). "

    Sustanon is well distributed on the black market and readily available. It is difficult to find the less frequently available original "Susta. " On the black market mostly the Russian or Indian 5ustanon 250 is sold. The Indian Sustanon 250 is manufactured in Calcutta, India, by Organon and officially destined for export to Russia. Through Czechoslovakia, however, large quantities of this original Sustanon 250 are smuggled to Europe and the U.S. The Russian Sustanon 250 comes in a plastic film; printed in blue ink on the back are the name of the compound, the manufacturer, and the included substances. This imprint is either stamped on aluminum foil or on white paper. Five ampules are combined in one strip whereas each ampule is packaged individually. Original Sustanon 250 usually costs S per ampule on the black market and is certainly worth the price. In the meantime there are also several fakes of the Russian version which, however, can be easily identified by the rounded corners of the label. The originals always have a label with sharp corners

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    Ive used sus everyway possible and imho its best used EOD or ED, BUT this depends on how much mg per week you are taking, if your using 500mg per wk then the prop isn't going to do that much anyway its a small amount and 2 x weekly shots should be fine Ive seen good results with this method, everyone is different i would say try both ways then you will know which one your body responds best to, forget what it says on paper try it record the results and go with the best gains,

    For me its EOD or ED is the only way to use sus,

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    Ive used sus everyway possible and imho its best used EOD or ED, BUT this depends on how much mg per week you are taking, if your using 500mg per wk then the prop isn't going to do that much anyway its a small amount and 2 x weekly shots should be fine Ive seen good results with this method, everyone is different i would say try both ways then you will know which one your body responds best to, forget what it says on paper try it record the results and go with the best gains,

    For me its EOD or ED is the only way to use sus,
    EOD Seems the way 2 go but at E/D how much were u running a week 1750mg? as i want 2 get most out of the prop other than using an oral 2 kickstart a cycle or wud u jst say get sum prop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarKOmeN
    EOD Seems the way 2 go but at E/D how much were u running a week 1750mg? as i want 2 get most out of the prop other than using an oral 2 kickstart a cycle or wud u jst say get sum prop?
    Depends on how much sus your running, at 500mg per wk its not going to make that much of a difference the prop is a very little amount, kick starting the sus with some prop is another way of getting the most out of it, all you can do is try oneway this time and try another next time you run sus and record the results and go with the best way,

    Your goiing to get half the bb's on here saying run it 2xweekly and others EOD so pick one and see how you go,

    It doesnt matter how much mg i use of sus, my cycles are planned for my cycle history and would vary greatly between us both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    Depends on how much sus your running, at 500mg per wk its not going to make that much of a difference the prop is a very little amount, kick starting the sus with some prop is another way of getting the most out of it, all you can do is try oneway this time and try another next time you run sus and record the results and go with the best way,

    Your goiing to get half the bb's on here saying run it 2xweekly and others EOD so pick one and see how you go,

    It doesnt matter how much mg i use of sus, my cycles are planned for my cycle history and would vary greatly between us both.
    kk thnx for your input on this

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    I'm currently running sust @ 500 a week shooting on tuesday and friday. Obviously eod would be optimal, but i'm making the most with what i have. (20 ml for a 10 week cycle). I'm seeing really nice gains with it. Sust can be, and has been a painful shot for me, so i couldn't imagine shooting e.d.

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    Personally I'd run it eod. But like Marcus said, everyone has a different opinion about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    Personally I'd run it eod. But like Marcus said, everyone has a different opinion about it.
    yeh EOD seems the smartest option

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    every 3rd day is better than twice a week...

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