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  1. 09-02-2006, 08:30 AM #1
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    joints sufferign big time

    im on 100mg each every day of test p, npp, and masteron , also 50mg of anadrol

    i thought the deca would help my joints but they are killin me is it the masteron killin me? too much anti e to it and also dht properties?
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    erm deca works great 4 my sore joints. not sure about this 1
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    I never had any joint issues on masteron . Only when I added winny to it. How long have you been on cycle?
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    Could try some glucosamine and chondroitin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Could try some glucosamine and chondroitin?
    I use a mixture of those with MSM, Hyaluric acid and botanicals, its called joint vibrance. Works well but took about a month to start to feel a difference, its made by Vibrant Heath. WWW.vibranthealth.us
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuns101
    I use a mixture of those with MSM, Hyaluric acid and botanicals, its called joint vibrance. Works well but took about a month to start to feel a difference, its made by Vibrant Heath. WWW.vibrantheath.us
    i dont think the link works
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    How have your strength gains been so far? Have you gone up a good amount of weight on alot of your lifts? If this is the case, then it just might be that your joints/tendons havent been able to adapt to the constant increase in weight.
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    www.vibranthealth.us, sorry I spell like a 10 yr old.
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    I find high dose Vitamin C works wonders. Along with what Swifto suggested and MSM.
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    ***** 3's also work well, I feel.
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    taking an AI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Could try some glucosamine and chondroitin?
    year round, 2x a day
    i cant walk without it after a few knee surgeries
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuns101
    I use a mixture of those with MSM, Hyaluric acid and botanicals, its called joint vibrance. Works well but took about a month to start to feel a difference, its made by Vibrant Heath. WWW.vibrantheath.us
    thanks bro but that links no good
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    Quote Originally Posted by idunk42
    How have your strength gains been so far? Have you gone up a good amount of weight on alot of your lifts? If this is the case, then it just might be that your joints/tendons havent been able to adapt to the constant increase in weight.
    the pain is in my legs and knees
    i have not worked my legs since i started this cycle, i actually rarely work them maybe once a month, between how many knee surgeries i have had and the fact that i dont body build i do this all for wrestling, my leg workouts are pretty much just wrestling and running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    I find high dose Vitamin C works wonders. Along with what Swifto suggested and MSM.
    year round baby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    taking an AI?
    yeah its called masteron
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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    yeah its called masteron

    Well thats it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    ***** 3's also work well, I feel.
    year round baby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Well thats it.
    but the masteron dose is matched with an equal npp dose.. but thats what i was figuing
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    I find high dose Vitamin C works wonders. Along with what Swifto suggested and MSM.
    i remember someone posting an experiment with an insanley high dose of vitamin c and claimed it worked wonders. what type of dose are you talking about?? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggen
    i remember someone posting an experiment with an insanley high dose of vitamin c and claimed it worked wonders. what type of dose are you talking about?? thanks

    Around 10 grams.....I've also noticed a diff.
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    Are your joints getting very very sore as you go through each set/rep?

    I had this problem with deca , or at least thats what I beleive it was attributed to.

    I think the deca masked the pain in my shoulder a little, allowing me to stilll lift heavily but my joints/ligaments werent ready for the weight that my muscles could handle. Followin me?

    Maybe you are moving up in the weights too fast or maybe you have an injury that is partially masked by your aas use. It could also be attributed to the DHT effecting estrogen levels etc etc. I am afraid it is unlikely that we will be able to give you a definative answer. You will have some experimenting to do in order to find a solution to this problem IMO, much as I did.

    I would personaly ease up a bit to be safe and just be careful, listen to your body and when it starts to hurt, change something or stop until it doesnt or you will just make it worse and worse until you are no longer able to do what you love.

    Thats my POV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Around 10 grams.....I've also noticed a diff.

    I took 5g and I sware I felt more calm and focused. HAvent been abel to keep up with it thought because of stomach pains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    I took 5g and I sware I felt more calm and focused. HAvent been abel to keep up with it thought because of stomach pains.
    Tore up my stomach also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuns101
    Tore up my stomach also.

    I have bad pains in it anyway due to an "acid buildup" supposedly, which vit c will not help with. I did notice a difference I didnt expect though.
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    Are you all taking the powder for of it?


    I use to have bad stomach probs, but this hasn't effected it at all.

    10G's no problemo
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    no well, they are powder-ish tabs....??
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    I've found high dose Vit C reduces injection site pain from short esters. 10g ED.
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    superdrol killed my joints which is I beleive oral maestron. So could be the maestron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T3/T4 GSR
    superdrol killed my joints which is I beleive oral maestron. So could be the maestron.
    Nope, Oral Masteron = masteron, not SuperDrol.

    SD is a different compound, that's like Masteron, but not actual masteron.
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    Glucosamine is what I'm using right now. I've got pretty sore knees right now from all the cardio I'm doing. Only been trying for two days, but hopefully helps out abit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    Nope, Oral Masteron = masteron, not SuperDrol.

    SD is a different compound, that's like Masteron, but not actual masteron.
    Yup. Calling SD 'oral' masteron is like calling Dbol 'oral' boldenone .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    Glucosamine is what I'm using right now. I've got pretty sore knees right now from all the cardio I'm doing. Only been trying for two days, but hopefully helps out abit.

    Good luck, give it 3-4 weeks

    Find some adequan.....then give it to me lol.
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    where to find vitc powder? is it expensive? 10 grams seems like a lot. make into caps?? thats like 20 pills so im guessing you mix with water?
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    Its cheap man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    where to find vitc powder? is it expensive? 10 grams seems like a lot. make into caps?? thats like 20 pills so im guessing you mix with water?

    It's much cheaper than the tablets. Yah I mix with water just the powder. It should be in just about every sup/nutrition store.
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