2nd cycle. is 17 weeks too long?

[keith hackney]

im planning on 10 weeks of enanthate and switching to prop for the last 7 weeks. 17 weeks too long for my 2nd cycle? what do u think

[STEROIDZZ]

that makes no sense man... why would you want to do that.. test is test ? and i wouldnt recommend a 17 wk cycle... you need to give me your stats.. age, height, weight, bf, cycle experience, training exp... and i can help better.. but from what your talking about that doesnt sound very smart

[tonytone]

why switch?

what you could do is frontload prop, and shorten that shit up...something like

1-14 test e
1-4 prop

you could throw the prop in at the end as well leading up to pct

[marcus300]

No i wouldnt recommend doing that at all, pls post your stats and results from your first cycle and the compound used.

[Test4life]

im planning on 10 weeks of enanthate and switching to prop for the last 7 weeks. 17 weeks too long for my 2nd cycle? what do u think

not good but how many mgs/ml did you have in mind?
too long and unorganized cycle.

[keith hackney]

21 years old. training for 7 years. 6'2 230 14%bf.

i totally understand what you are all saying. i can see why u think it doesnt make sense. the reason for the switch is to end the enanthate so that those long life metabolites will clear incase i am drug tested later on. the reason for not just ending the cycle and pct'ing it after the 10 weeks of enanth is because we have max outs for football right around my would-be week 17. it is not an "unorganized cycle" i have put a lot of thought and scheduling into this, i just didnt provide u bros with the proper information. prop for the entire cycle seems like a more logical way to do things if im worried about drug tests, but 17 weeks ed is a long haul for prop. my other option is to shorten it down to 12 weeks of all prop 100mg ed, start it a little later and it will lead me right up to max out week.

[pumpd4lif]

21 years old. training for 7 years. 6'2 230 14%bf.

i totally understand what you are all saying. i can see why u think it doesnt make sense. the reason for the switch is to end the enanthate so that those long life metabolites will clear incase i am drug tested later on. the reason for not just ending the cycle and pct'ing it after the 10 weeks of enanth is because we have max outs for football right around my would-be week 17. it is not an "unorganized cycle" i have put a lot of thought and scheduling into this, i just didnt provide u bros with the proper information. prop for the entire cycle seems like a more logical way to do things if im worried about drug tests, but 17 weeks ed is a long haul for prop. my other option is to shorten it down to 12 weeks of all prop 100mg ed, start it a little later and it will lead me right up to max out week.

thats what u should do as far as rating 1-10 for building muscle i would give prope 7 and enth 5. 17 weeks is way to long.

[perfectbeast2001]

I prefer your last option. Stick with prop and start later. Need it be said that at your age you should be training natrually before using AS.

[fLgAtOr]

You and I are very similar in stats. I'll give you my opinion based on my second cycle, which was 16 weeks (bulk/cut). I felt burned out...and I wish I had split it up. I don't even think I want to do a 12 weeker now becuase of it.

I like your idea of shortening your cycle and starting a little later. I'm a fan of prop. For me, I broke out considerably less with prop. ED injects for 12 wks doesn't bother me at all, so as long as youre cool with it, go for it.

[keith hackney]

I prefer your last option. Stick with prop and start later. Need it be said that at your age you should be training natrually before using AS.

thanks beast

[Swifto]

I used Test Prop at the end of my Test Enan 500mg/wk cycle and it didnt do much. There was a little kick in strength and increase in scar tissue from ED shots. Use Test Prop all the way through IMO.

[cfiler]

Best to keep a shorter cycle imo. Keep it simple.

[powerliftmike]

You will gain more if you drop some off-time in there. I like 8wks myself.

[hardgainer1]

I have found that i keep more after longer cycles. 17 is a bit long but not that crazy even for a second cycle. But you are better off frontloading with the prop as stated above