Hardness/Vascularity/LBM with least sides

[dolimitless]

Ok, I have searched the forums but there seems to be confliciting views on which product works the best for muscle hardness, vascularity, and LBM with least sides. Anavar, Primo, Equipoise, Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol seems to have the least sides so it's not a steroid. Would this be used as a stand alone cycle or with PCT? What have you used in your experiences?

[liftin4life]

Ok, I have searched the forums but there seems to be confliciting views on which product works the best for muscle hardness, vascularity, and LBM with least sides. Anavar, Primo, Equipoise, Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol seems to have the least sides so it's not a steroid. Would this be used as a stand alone cycle or with PCT? What have you used in your experiences?

Clen is great standalone OR stacked. I suggest you do searches on each of these compounds so you can make an educated decision on your own.

As far as something nonhormonal/safe...clen is the best option. For vascularity EQ is great because of the blood volume increase and slight increase in metabolism. Anavar is a great hardening agent...cuts fat...builds muscle. mg for mg it's quite potent as a bulker also.

Of course...you could always stack them all and be freeeeeaky.

[LatinoPR]

I dont know your cycles exp..but in my exp. EQ is exelent for vascularity but needs to run for 12 weeks @ 600mg/week for good results,also anavar is good for vascularity.Winny works for me for hardness.Clenbuterol is for fat burner,is comon used for cutting cycles.Now i recomend that do a good search and dont go crazy making cycles with out proper advice from expert ppl in this forum,listen to them.Also go to the newbies cycles,great info..any question feel free to ask...and welcome to A/R.





LPR ...dermatology.

[Bigmax]

Hey bro,with 2 posts first off welcome to AR...now what your stats???..cycle experience???You can lose BF without AAS and put on lean muscle with a good diet.You can do all of the above but without those 2 ingredients I just mentioned you'll piss in the wind.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Clen is great standalone OR stacked. I suggest you do searches on each of these compounds so you can make an educated decision on your own.

As far as something nonhormonal/safe...clen is the best option. For vascularity EQ is great because of the blood volume increase and slight increase in metabolism. Anavar is a great hardening agent...cuts fat...builds muscle. mg for mg it's quite potent as a bulker also.

Of course...you could always stack them all and be freeeeeaky.

^^^ what are you talking about. Clen is far from safe or for gaining muscle.....

[Bigmax]

^^^ what are you talking about. Clen is far from safe or for gaining muscle.....

LIke I said..what are your stats and cycle experience bro?????

[marcus300]

Ok, I have searched the forums but there seems to be confliciting views on which product works the best for muscle hardness, vascularity, and LBM with least sides. Anavar, Primo, Equipoise, Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol seems to have the least sides so it's not a steroid. Would this be used as a stand alone cycle or with PCT? What have you used in your experiences?

First you will have to tell us more about yourself ie stats and experience to help you more indepth,

As for your having conflicting reports regarding muscle hardness and vascularity drugs is because there isnt just one whats best, many are best for that individual so it varys between Bodybuilders which works best for them,

[Liftnainez]

var/tbol stack will be great for the goals you are looking for

[POSH]

Test prop, tren, EQ, Letro - Just deal w/ the sides from the tren....You will get phenominal results.

[Duke of Earl]

Ok, I have searched the forums but there seems to be confliciting views on which product works the best for muscle hardness, vascularity, and LBM with least sides. Anavar, Primo, Equipoise, Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol seems to have the least sides so it's not a steroid. Would this be used as a stand alone cycle or with PCT? What have you used in your experiences?

dunno about you guys but this sounds suspiciously like someone who has just read the steroid.com profiles and has absolutely no AAS knowledge / experience ( god knows what their stats are ) so recommending anything blindly especially stuff like tren isn't a great idea......lets see his diet / stats first ...then make some recommendations........

so.... STATS PLEASE !!

[Bigmax]

Test prop, tren, EQ, Letro - Just deal w/ the sides from the tren....You will get phenominal results.

Why would you recommend Tren??????we dont know anything about this guy!!!..if you noticed I responded to his post fairly early and I aske for his stats...with no response.....Lets not just give out advise if we dont anything about the individual PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...especiall y something like tren cause that was HORRIBLE advise...thats just your personal experience!!!!!

[T3/T4 GSR]

If you have to use AAS for this and you want the least sides and your cutting diet is solid than you can benefit from primo and anavar...low sides but very expensive.

[dolimitless]

Hey guys, thanx for the replies. I am 5'8" 175lbs, 8% lean body fat. I am a distance runner who runs marathons. I am somewhat bigger than the average distance runner. Anyways, it looks like Primo and Anavar seem to be the best. What is so bad about clenbuterol?

I've always had one problem. I really have no bodyfat except for my midsection. It just seems to collect over my stomach. Even at 8% body fat I have to squeeze my abs real hard to see the top 4 in the mirror. Normally they can't even be seen without definition unless I flex. My bottom two have a layer of fat -- and yes the 8% is legit.

As far as cycles. I have done done two of Test E only. One of 350mg week, another at 450mg. I did very low dosages because I don't want to gain to much mass, but have more lean ones. Would the Primo and Anavar help me? Thanks guys!

[POSH]

Why would you recommend Tren??????we dont know anything about this guy!!!..if you noticed I responded to his post fairly early and I aske for his stats...with no response.....Lets not just give out advise if we dont anything about the individual PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...especiall y something like tren cause that was HORRIBLE advise...thats just your personal experience!!!!!

Oh I am sorry, I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to give my opinion to a simple question before I know his entire life story! It was a fairly basic question so I gave my opinion....deal with it. Also, I am sure this guy knows that I an opinion is an opinion............so maybe you should settle down a little. I don't care if you are a MOD, you forget this is an open forum, so people are going to say what they like and give opinions that YOU may not agree with.

[Bigmax]

You know what??..you're right this is an open forum and we all have the right to our opinions!!! Thats why My opinion of your advise was that it was HORRIBLE!!!...

[Cat316]

forgetting your age...is there a reason its not there?

[mick-g]

For the very least in sides, i would say primo, low dosage hg testosterones/prop, proviron (not really a steroid, but will add some hardness), perhaps alittle Npp like 300mg/wk. Thats it. You can actually get very good lbm if diet and training is in check with just these ive listed.

[POSH]

You know what??..you're right this is an open forum and we all have the right to our opinions!!! Thats why My opinion of your advise was that it was HORRIBLE!!!...

Good to know...

[Duke of Earl]

What is so bad about clenbuterol?

Nothing.... it just wont help you gain muscle - It will help you lose fat, and is anti-catabolic..... but there are nasty potential sides - so research it well

[goalseeker]

In my own personal opinion, I like var best........

[vermin]

Masteron anybody? Also, for a runner, high dose HGH has been shown to do exactly what he's asking for, and quickly, too (though not cheap).

[goalseeker]

Yes.. Var Then Masteron, for me...
Im actually running both right now at 100mg/ED.. love it..
And prop too of course...

[POSH]

Ok, I have searched the forums but there seems to be confliciting views on which product works the best for muscle hardness, vascularity, and LBM with least sides. Anavar, Primo, Equipoise, Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol seems to have the least sides so it's not a steroid. Would this be used as a stand alone cycle or with PCT? What have you used in your experiences?

Oh and Mr. Jackass, did you catch this part of the question??

[POSH]

Why would you recommend Tren??????we dont know anything about this guy!!!..if you noticed I responded to his post fairly early and I aske for his stats...with no response.....Lets not just give out advise if we dont anything about the individual PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...especiall y something like tren cause that was HORRIBLE advise...thats just your personal experience!!!!!

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!