Nat Test Levels after 1 or more cycles

**Andros** · 09-06-2006, 01:12 AM

To those who've had some experience and have had bloodwork done before their cycles and after PCT....

Do your natural Test levels come back to roughly the same level afterwards or does exogenous use lower your natty levels forever even after months off?

**playboy2005** · 09-06-2006, 01:32 AM

good question, im very interested in a solid reply.

**daem** · 09-06-2006, 10:36 AM

I can try to give you some idea of what has happened to me over the years.

I've done 7 cycles over the last 5 years and gotten bloodwork after each. From cycles 3-7, I made sure to incorporate HCG in my cycles as well as use BOTH nolvadex and clomid in conjunction with a tribulus supplement in all my PCT.

The last visit to the endo this summer while being 1 year off showed my test levels at 740, which falls close to the midpoint of natural test levels.

I have hovered from 700-825 naturally over the last 5 years, and never dipped below 700. With proper PCT and no extremely long cycles, I'm convinced I haven't done much to suppress my production.

Today, I'm 27.

**Swifto** · 09-06-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by daem

I can try to give you some idea of what has happened to me over the years.

I've done 7 cycles over the last 5 years and gotten bloodwork after each. From cycles 3-7, I made sure to incorporate HCG in my cycles as well as use BOTH nolvadex and clomid in conjunction with a tribulus supplement in all my PCT.

The last visit to the endo this summer while being 1 year off showed my test levels at 740, which falls close to the midpoint of natural test levels.

I have hovered from 700-825 naturally over the last 5 years, and never dipped below 700. With proper PCT and no extremely long cycles, I'm convinced I haven't done much to suppress my production.

Today, I'm 27.

Thats great.

My test levels havent dropped after 2 cycles, both lasting over 12 weeks.

**stupidhippo** · 09-06-2006, 01:14 PM

im also interested in this.. im gonna do BW like some 4 months after this cycle... dont know the baseline value but definetly think it might have gone down.. Im simply not as horny as I was before.. I used to need to get it or jerk off several times a day and now when off once a day seems to cut it.. Ofcourse Im not basing my opinion solely on this... I cant know for sure but if I still have pretty low test 6 months after this cycle then i suspect it has effected me.

**daem** · 09-06-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

im also interested in this.. im gonna do BW like some 4 months after this cycle... dont know the baseline value but definetly think it might have gone down.. Im simply not as horny as I was before.. I used to need to get it or jerk off several times a day and now when off once a day seems to cut it.. Ofcourse Im not basing my opinion solely on this... I cant know for sure but if I still have pretty low test 6 months after this cycle then i suspect it has effected me.

Just because you aren't as horny doesn't mean your test is suppressed. Diet, stress, level of activity, etc. all contribute to your sex drive.

If you are concerned about it, I'd get tested so that you know where you are today.

If you have naturally low levels, you will HAVE to do more in PCT to get started again.

It is just good practice to keep track of what is going on in the inside as well as the changes that are occuring in the mirror.

Best of luck!

**stupidhippo** · 09-06-2006, 01:54 PM

i know that.. like I said there are many other factors too.. that was just one example.. I know I cant say 100% sure but after going though PCT with low test and gradually feeling more normal and comparing that to previous experiences I think I have a pretty good guess. I also got to be pretty big and strong naturally. I was a very good gainer in the gym naturally. After putting many, many things together I do believe I used to have pretty high test, or definetly not low. Again I know I cant say that as a 100% sure fact.

**smartwater** · 09-06-2006, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

im also interested in this.. im gonna do BW like some 4 months after this cycle... dont know the baseline value but definetly think it might have gone down.. Im simply not as horny as I was before.. I used to need to get it or jerk off several times a day and now when off once a day seems to cut it.. Ofcourse Im not basing my opinion solely on this... I cant know for sure but if I still have pretty low test 6 months after this cycle then i suspect it has effected me.

this is exactly how i feel tbh even when off for 4 months. concerns me a bit as im 22 but i guess its all part of the game