Prop... Nothing Happening!!!

**Taurus** · 09-06-2006, 07:10 AM

My cycle was this:

1-8 50mg tbol
1-8 60mg var
9-14 150mg prop eod

i gained 15 lbs on var/tbol.

i'm into 3rd week of prop and am feeling nothing. i have dropped from 205 to 201. i dont feel the same pump. my strength is the same as on var/tbol...it has not gone up any. i know it is not bum gear as my friends are on it and their strength has gone up. i am eating more than what i was when i was on tbol/var.

i dont understand whats happening. any suggestions?

**skipp** · 09-06-2006, 07:30 AM

You're not drinking it are you? lol

I'd seriously check the gear, you should be feelin good and your inj. sites should be sore.

**helium3** · 09-06-2006, 07:34 AM

its always possible that you got bunk gear but also consider your body may have made all the gains its gonna with this cycle,once the bodies adapted and the gains stop get off and maintain.15 pounds sounds like a good score to me.

**goalseeker** · 09-06-2006, 07:38 AM

why did you wait till week 9 to start the prop????

**briansauras** · 09-06-2006, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

why did you wait till week 9 to start the prop????

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***G-1000*** · 09-06-2006, 08:43 AM

does the prop injections sting at all?

**DarKOmeN** · 09-06-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

does the prop injections sting at all?

why if it stings? evry1 has always told me even if it stings ur gear cud be fake cud jst have a high BA dose not flaming u becos u no a lot more than me n i respect ur well ernt knowledge jst 4rt id put this across

**DarKOmeN** · 09-06-2006, 12:17 PM

if im wrong about the "sting" plz comment

**Taurus** · 09-06-2006, 12:33 PM

yes the prop injections sting. i have had the test flu and everything. i just dont understand why no gains. i was on the orals for 8 weeks. i wanted to finish off with the prop and not mix it with the orals to see how my body gained with just orals.

as for my body making all the gains it was gonna make...i dont know about that...i was only on the orals for 8 weeks...and at moderate doses. the prop was just to finish off and put on a little more mass.

**Duke of Earl** · 09-06-2006, 01:42 PM

hmmmm - weird cycle....... but still you shd still be seeing something from the prop by now..... ignoring the flu ( could be coincidence ) - have you got any other sides ? Puffy nips, acne etc ? ....you shd at least have gained a little water from it by now...
If not sounds bunk to me

***Alex*** · 09-06-2006, 02:16 PM

bunk gear IMO.

**BIGswang** · 09-06-2006, 02:22 PM

i ran prop near the end of my cycle and it did nothing for me too but i guess i got more leaner vascular and i was shooting it ed @100mg.

**Tattoo70** · 09-06-2006, 02:42 PM

IMHO I would've started my cycle with the prop. I think by doing that then you would've gotten better gains with that and the var combined.

**fLgAtOr** · 09-06-2006, 02:51 PM

I guess the obvious question is:

Is Taurus Jr. more happy than before?????

**fLgAtOr** · 09-06-2006, 02:56 PM

I know you're eatin more, but are you eating ENOUGH?? You've gained 15 lbs of lean mass....are you eating for those new 15 lbs?

Does the prop hurt a day or two after? High BA doesn't cuase soreness for days afterwards...The prop ester coming out of solution in your ass causes soreness.

Are you holding any water?

Now, you might not have the same pump becuase you just stopped VAR and TBOL...that seems like a pretty good reason. However, if it was bunk gear, you wouldn't be ON for the last 3 wks...So your strength would drop.

**305GUY** · 09-06-2006, 03:26 PM

WTF 15lbs from a var/tbol cycle????????

**Taurus** · 09-06-2006, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

I know you're eatin more, but are you eating ENOUGH?? You've gained 15 lbs of lean mass....are you eating for those new 15 lbs?

Does the prop hurt a day or two after? High BA doesn't cuase soreness for days afterwards...The prop ester coming out of solution in your ass causes soreness.

Are you holding any water?

Now, you might not have the same pump becuase you just stopped VAR and TBOL...that seems like a pretty good reason. However, if it was bunk gear, you wouldn't be ON for the last 3 wks...So your strength would drop.

yes..my strength has remained. and the shots do hurt for days after. i had bad night sweats too. the sides were there. i'm not holding water or acne...but i never get acne.

the reason i didnt run the prop from the beginning is because i wanted to see what the orals did to me alone. and from the looks of it, 15lbs is excellent...and my cals were maintanance. i put the prop in there at the end to complete the cycle and to get some test inside me. thats all.

i'm just confused that if two mild orals could make me gain...why the hell is the test not workin... i've actually lost a couple of pounds. and i have upped my cals drastically... even eating in the middle of the night.

at the very least my strength should have increased...!

**RoidGut** · 09-06-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

WTF 15lbs from a var/tbol cycle????????

I have actually seen it with my own eyes....I was like you when my buddy decided on a tbol only cycle...I was like you will never get anything from it. Well he actually increased almost a full 20lbs. However, the next logical question is....how much did he keep? ZERO, ZIP, ZILTCH. oh well

**Taurus** · 09-06-2006, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

WTF 15lbs from a var/tbol cycle????????

i'm a really easy gainer. i gained 14lbs from an SD cycle in 4 weeks...and kept 11lbs after pct. for me, orals work better than injectables...i dont know why!

for the record...the pumps i felt with SD were unbelievable...i've never felt it like that before, and i have taken dbol , var, tbol, prop and sust.

i think the SD cycle was my best. 4 weeks, 11 pounds... virtually no sides... great!

**RoidGut** · 09-06-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Taurus

yes..my strength has remained. and the shots do hurt for days after. i had bad night sweats too. the sides were there. i'm not holding water or acne...but i never get acne.

the reason i didnt run the prop from the beginning is because i wanted to see what the orals did to me alone. and from the looks of it, 15lbs is excellent...and my cals were maintanance. i put the prop in there at the end to complete the cycle and to get some test inside me. thats all.

i'm just confused that if two mild orals could make me gain...why the hell is the test not workin... i've actually lost a couple of pounds. and i have upped my cals drastically... even eating in the middle of the night.

at the very least my strength should have increased...!

It vary well could be like some others have said...it could be you have a bunk supply of prop. I can see a reason for you not to increase in weight maybe because you have reached your limit for that cycle, but to actually go down in weight is somewhat troubling. Do you have any other source for prop? maybe you can consider getting another supply.

**vic99** · 09-06-2006, 03:35 PM

could all your receptors be full and not able to accept more gear? everyone different I guess.

**fLgAtOr** · 09-06-2006, 03:36 PM

Well I think its safe to assume that your gear is fine.

Don't know what to tell you at this point other than my own personal experience. After 10 weeks, I don't see a whole lot of change in weight or strength...However I haven't run the same type of cycle you are.

..By the way congrats on the 15 lbs.

**Taurus** · 09-06-2006, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by RoidGut

It vary well could be like some others have said...it could be you have a bunk supply of prop. I can see a reason for you not to increase in weight maybe because you have reached your limit for that cycle, but to actually go down in weight is somewhat troubling. Do you have any other source for prop? maybe you can consider getting another supply.

if it was bunk gear...my strength should have gone down right? but my strength is still there. i finished the var/tbol over 2 weeks ago... if it was bunk gear...i should have crashed by now?... right?

i'm gettin a new bottle tonight... if i dont see anything within the next week... i'll end this cycle 3 weeks short and begin my pct...i see no point in continuing.

**Taurus** · 09-06-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Well I think its safe to assume that your gear is fine.

Don't know what to tell you at this point other than my own personal experience. After 10 weeks, I don't see a whole lot of change in weight or strength...However I haven't run the same type of cycle you are.

..By the way congrats on the 15 lbs.

thank you bro. maybe i'm expecting too much. i just thought after only 8 weeks of mild orals, i still had a few weeks to grow on test. i'll give it another week and if i dont see anything... i'll give it a rest and start pct like i've said above.

**fLgAtOr** · 09-06-2006, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Taurus

if it was bunk gear...my strength should have gone down right? but my strength is still there. i finished the var/tbol over 2 weeks ago... if it was bunk gear...i should have crashed by now?... right?

That's my belief. You would be on wk 3 with no juice and no natty test ( or at least a little low).

Originally Posted by Taurus

i'm gettin a new bottle tonight... if i dont see anything within the next week... i'll end this cycle 3 weeks short and begin my pct...i see no point in continuing.

Ya know...Why bother? You've already had a great cycle. I would say save it for next time. Take your 15lbs and run. Besides, sooner you get off means the sooner you can get back on.

**goalseeker** · 09-06-2006, 03:44 PM

ive never heard of finishing a cycle with it, always starting.. especially with Var... keep us posted bro...

**Brie** · 09-06-2006, 03:47 PM

i dont know if it helps but some people prop(poop) does nothing for them my husband for one he has ran it every which way he could think of and nothing. And receptors dont get saturated or clogged

**goalseeker** · 09-06-2006, 03:56 PM

Every which way he can and still nothing???? That seems odd... were they from different suppliers, or all the same supplier?

**Taurus** · 09-06-2006, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

That's my belief. You would be on wk 3 with no juice and no natty test ( or at least a little low).

Ya know...Why bother? You've already had a great cycle. I would say save it for next time. Take your 15lbs and run. Besides, sooner you get off means the sooner you can get back on.

i hear ya bro. i had planned the cycle this way cuz i thought i would gain some from the orals in 8 weeks, and then gain a bit more from the test. This way i would have known how my body responded to the var and tbol. i'm very happy with the results... i jus thought the prop would have helped a bit more at the end. i know if i had added prop in the beginning, my gains may have been different...but that way i would not have known how much of the gains were attributed to which steroid . now i know i am good with just tbol var...so in the end, i learned something about what works for me.