First Cycle Problem.......

[TheDave]

I am getting ready to get the gear for my first cycle and I cant get my hands on some HCG. I am 25 and I have been training for about five years. I am 6'0 and weigh 217 @ about 10%BF. I just recently cleaned up my diet and my training has always been on. This is what I had in mind.

1-10 150mg Prop eod
1-10 .25mg adex ed

PCT

10-14 100mg clomid/ 20mg nolva ed

Can I get away without using HCG?

[getpumped24]

great natty stats. bulking or cutting? you shouldn't need HCG. 10 wks test c or e would be better bulker at 500 mg wk. prop is ususally used as a cutter. never used it, but 150mg eod seem a little much for 1st cycle. should be inj. every day at maybe 50mg. PCT looks pretty good. the vets might be able to help a little more. good luck.

[TheDave]

I had something like a lean bulk in mind. I want to get up to about 230. I cant really use Test E or C because of drug testing reasons.

[magic32]

Any Test will do, bulking and cutting are predicated on diet not the Test ester used.

As Getpumped stated, HCG is unnecessary for this cycle.

M.

[TheDave]

Thanks for the advice

[STEROIDZZ]

test prop is "typically" used in cutting due to less water retention, although i agree test is test... diet is th ekey.. but if your going to do a bulk go with a single ester.. test cyp or eth

[magic32]

Prop is a single ester.

M.

[goalseeker]

what is your current diet like bro?

[daem]

It hasn't been mentioned yet, but since this is your first cycle, you are going to get tired of the ED shots.

70 of them throughout the next 10 weeks is going to make you feel like a pincushion!

I'd recommend doing some research on different injection sites, and PLAN out what body part you are going to inject in each week.

Trust me, nothing is worse than switching sites at the moment of truth and then accumulating scar tissue.

My delts definitely don't like me for that reason.

[neverenuff21]

I would run the prop at 75mg a day if this is your first. Hcg is better, but not a necessity.

[pumpd4lif]

yes 75 mg ed is perfect i would say and prope is one of the best for great gaines
on a scale of 1-10 test c or e would get say a 4 were prope gets a solid 7 good choice for first cyle : )
and u shouldnt need hcg

[goalseeker]

be a man.. ED is the way! nice and stable levels...

[goalseeker]

yes 75 mg ed is perfect i would say and prope is one of the best for great gaines
on a scale of 1-10 test c or e would get say a 4 were prope gets a solid 7 good choice for first cyle : )
and u shouldnt need hcg

I agree with pumped....

[pumpd4lif]

yes with everyday injects ur blood levels willl be straight across the board u should have great gaines keep us posted

[TheDave]

Thanks for the responses I will keep you posted.