First Cycle Suggestions? #2

[Daemonn]

I will re-post my original thread and hopefully that dumba$$ won't show up here again. I got some input on the first thread from only like 2-3 people. Im still not sure why my thread was closed and why that guy wasnt just banned or something. Anyway here it goes again:

Greetings,

I am 39 years old, been lifting consistenly for the last 4 years. 6", 185 pounds. My training consists mainly of compound moves with free weights like squats, benches, clean and presses, chins, barbell rows, deadlifts. I have decided to do my first cycle after researching and studying AAS for the last 8 months or so. My goal is to gain 15-20 pounds while holding on to as much as possible post-cycle. I really want to minimize sides since I am very prone to gyno and acne. My diet while on gear will be approx. 4000 cals, 300gr Protein, 400 gr carbs, 120-130 grams of fat, mostly good fats. Here's what I have decided to run:

1-10 test e (Schering testoviron) 400mg EW, 250mg twice a week for the first 4 weeks, then 1 shot every 4 days.
1-4 Dbol (Russian methandrostenolone) 20mg ED
1-12 Proviron 50mg ED (after that debate with mod Marcus I might extend it to PCT, so it might look like 1-12 50mg ED, 13-16 100mg ED.)
1-10 Nolvadex (Astrozeneca) 10 mg ED
11-12 Nolvadex 20mg ED

PCT
13-16 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
13-16 Proviron (not sure yet) 100mg ED

Please note that the base compound (Test En) WILL NOT change. No more Primo or Winny suggestions, please.

I have access to Clomid, (cheap too) should I add it to my PCT as in 100/100/50/50? Or it would be an overkill?
I have 5mg Dbol tabs and I was gonna split it like 10mg in AM and 10mg 5-6 hours later. What do you think about that?
In general, please make suggestions on this cycle. All constructive input woule be appreciated. Thanks.


Daemonn

[G-1000]

Sorry for the lock bro.

Best of luck with this one.

By the way that is a nice cycle.

[mkrulic]

did you read my comments on d-bol. if not I'll re-post

[STEROIDZZ]

doesnt look like a bad cycle to me although i would run the test for 12 wks.. and i prefer clomid/ nolva for PCT... as far as proviron i have no idea about that.. but being your first cycle i ONLY recommend Test Eth,, & dbol for a kickstart ... you would see GREAT results with proper diet, and training. but Clomid should be taken for 100mg , and nolva at 20mg... i run it at that dose throughout pct no point in really tapering dsgs of the clomid, inless you start feeling like a pussy and all sentimental and stuff.. then might want to decrease it ... and pct should be started 14 days after last shot of test eth....

[SMAN12b]

cycle looks great

I prefer Arimidex during cycle and Nolva/clomid PCT but that is just me

I am running my proviron through cycle and PCt as well.

GOOD LUCK with it and WELCOME TO AR

[Daemonn]

did you read my comments on d-bol. if not I'll re-post

Im sorry bro, Im not sure. You said about the lower back pumps right? Please re-post if its no trouble. Thanks.

[Daemonn]

Sorry for the lock bro.

Best of luck with this one.

By the way that is a nice cycle.

No problem bro. I was just curious tho about something u said in my original thread. Don't tell me that the only problem you saw on the cycle that guy proposed was the ED pinning? To me it looked like a sci-fi cycle, lol!
About this one now... Would you run Proviron in PCT too? 100mg ED?

[perfectbeast2001]

all looks good to me mate. Good luck!

[Daemonn]

doesnt look like a bad cycle to me although i would run the test for 12 wks.. and i prefer clomid/ nolva for PCT... as far as proviron i have no idea about that.. but being your first cycle i ONLY recommend Test Eth,, & dbol for a kickstart ... you would see GREAT results with proper diet, and training. but Clomid should be taken for 100mg , and nolva at 20mg... i run it at that dose throughout pct no point in really tapering dsgs of the clomid, inless you start feeling like a pussy and all sentimental and stuff.. then might want to decrease it ... and pct should be started 14 days after last shot of test eth....

Thanx for the input. I have a feeling, as far as sides are concerned, that anything over 10 weeks would somehow screw me, lol! This is just a gut feeling nothing more. I think that 2 more weeks wouldnt make a significant diff. I'll stick to 10 for now and I'll see. I might extend it, finding top-grade gear is no problem where I live. I think I might throw in some Clomid @ 100mg ED, yoy are prolly right about the tapering. It's just that most people prefer Nolva and the word on Clomid is not the best, mood swings, depression and $hit. My PCT starts on week 13, Im pretty sure I made that clear.

[Daemonn]

cycle looks great

I prefer Arimidex during cycle and Nolva/clomid PCT but that is just me

I am running my proviron through cycle and PCt as well.

GOOD LUCK with it and WELCOME TO AR

I actually thought of running Letro or Adex instead of Prov+Nolva combo throughout the cycle but since my gear dosages are fairly small and those AIs cost A LOT here I decided not to. Besides, some Nolva and Proviron should control some bloat and estrogen, maybe not to the extent of a modern AI, but good enough. I also feel that my choice is healthier as well.

[Daemonn]

all looks good to me mate. Good luck!

Thanx beast

[Daemonn]

cycle looks great

I prefer Arimidex during cycle and Nolva/clomid PCT but that is just me

I am running my proviron through cycle and PCt as well.

GOOD LUCK with it and WELCOME TO AR

SMAN I was just curious, you run both Proviron and an AI during your cycles? Then how do you go into PCT? Can you be a lil more specific? Thanx bro.

[mkrulic]

Im sorry bro, Im not sure. You said about the lower back pumps right? Please re-post if its no trouble. Thanks.

yea that was the just of it. if you cant do full deadlift or squat routines b/c of lower back pain drop this compound first

[SMAN12b]

SMAN I was just curious, you run both Proviron and an AI during your cycles? Then how do you go into PCT? Can you be a lil more specific? Thanx bro.

I will drop the arimidex at the end of the cycle. up my dosage of provirion from 50mgs/ed to 75mgs/ed and use my Nolva/clomid for pct as usual

[Daemonn]

bumpiddy bump!

[G-1000]

No problem bro. I was just curious tho about something u said in my original thread. Don't tell me that the only problem you saw on the cycle that guy proposed was the ED pinning? To me it looked like a sci-fi cycle, lol!
About this one now... Would you run Proviron in PCT too? 100mg ED?

For some one who is more advanced they can run a cycle like that. If you read you will see i said there will be more sides to deal with. It's also way to complicated for you.

[Daemonn]

bump