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    *Cycle* Good Or Bad?

    I am about to do a cycle that consist of the following and plan on doing it like this.

    Eq (Bolderone)-1 bottle
    Test (Enthanate)-1 Bottle
    Anavar (20 Mg Tabs)-100 tabs
    Test (Propinate)-2 bottle

    Now i am currently at 5'10 180 pounds with 13-15% body fat. My goals is to get a more muscular look with the strength gains, Tighten up as wee would say. My diet is gonna be a 5 meal a day plan that consist of no pasta, white bread ect....I will be also taking the protein as reccommened .

    I am gonna run the eq with the enthante to start at 2 shots a weeks for 4-5 weeks and then switch to the propinate and anavar, will be shooting the propinate at 3 times a week and taking 60mg of anavar a day ( 3 tabs ) for the last 4-5 weeks.

    Thank you for your time, work hard and train harder!

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    Bad.. cycle

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    We need more info on you in order to help first of all.
    Answer ALL the green questions below and we can hlep

    We also need you to lay out the proposed cycle better than just telling us what "bottles" you have. That tells us nothing about durations and concentrations

    You mentioned NOTHING about PCT

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    Why is it bad my friend? Was hoping for an elaberate detail here

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    My PCT is arimidex

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    OK, like stated above so far it looks like you have NO clue! still waiting for your stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    My PCT is arimidex
    Well if thats it you are in trouble. Now lay out your cycle properly like SMAN says. How much are you takeing and for what periods

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    age 24, weight 180 pounds, hieght 5'10, High protein diet low carbs, training consists of.......Gym= 5 days a week training chest, shoulders, arms, back, legs. 1 group a day, will do 4-5 different exercises with 4 sets of 8 on each muslce group, for abs and cardio i do ever other day, 5km jog. Ive previously done sustanon 250 with the dbol , my goal is to get ripped and hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    age 24, weight 180 pounds, hieght 5'10, High protein diet low carbs, training consists of.......Gym= 5 days a week training chest, shoulders, arms, back, legs. 1 group a day, will do 4-5 different exercises with 4 sets of 8 on each muslce group, for abs and cardio i do ever other day, 5km jog. Ive previously done sustanon 250 with the dbol, my goal is to get ripped and hard.
    Fine but how do you plan to use the juice you listed above

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    Why is it bad my friend? Was hoping for an elaberate detail here

    I'm sorry i did noit see were you asked that.

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    PCT i have the armidex and then tribestan,

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    Is this your first cycle?

    If it is your going to wont to use the test-e and var. But you will need more test.

    You also say your going on a low carb diet. Why is this? Do you know the deferents from simple and complex carbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    PCT i have the armidex and then tribestan,
    armidex is not used for pct. It is used with the cycle. Nolv and clomid are for pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    PCT i have the armidex and then tribestan,

    OK, lets try to save some time and agravation here.

    there is a PCT forum, I suggest you check it out as just arimidex and tribestan is NOT a good PCT

    second.

    layout your cycle like this:

    weeks 1-12 Compound 1 at xxxmgs/week
    weeks 1-10 Compound 2 at xxxmgs/week

    GOT IT??

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    Complex carbohydrates are high-fiber foods
    Simple carbs are fatty and the leading technology to obesisty

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    OK so now you can see it's not the carbs it's what kind you eat.

    Ok lay out the cycle the best you can like sman showed you.

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    weeks 1-5 EQ/Enth
    weeks 5-10 Prop/Anavar

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    weeks 1-5 i will be injecting every tues and friday consisting 1 ml of each
    weeks 5-10 i will be injecting the the propinate every sunday,tues,fri at 1 ml and taking the anavar 2 tabs a day for week 5 and then moving up to 3 a day weeks 6-10

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    i could have swore that arimidex and novoldex were the same product but armidex is better? i was told this.....so i wasted my money on the arimidex?

    Im gonna start taking the arimidex halfway into the cyle at a 1/2 a tab a day, then after my last shot im gonna be taking the tribestan to bring back my bodys testosterone .

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    OK you still don't get it.

    DO you have ADD?

    you need to list the concentration or HOW MUCH your going to take

    500mgs/week
    600mgs/wee
    2000mgs/week

    Come on, you are sounding like a 16 year old kid here and not an adult

    what you listed sucks so far!!

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    OK that is what i thought. The first thing you need to lean is how an ester works. Test -e and eq have long esters and take 4 weeks to even get blood levels even. So 5 weeks you will get little to no gains from them. eq should be run min 12 weeks test min 10.

    So for a first cycle you should be running 1 compound only. This way you can see how you react to that one alone. test is the best first cycle. If you wont to add an oral that is fin. so you will be able to run the var with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    weeks 1-5 i will be injecting every tues and friday consisting 1 ml of each
    weeks 5-10 i will be injecting the the propinate every sunday,tues,fri at 1 ml and taking the anavar 2 tabs a day for week 5 and then moving up to 3 a day weeks 6-10
    we dont know what the dose of 1ml is? there all diffrent

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    500mgs/week

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    eq-500mg
    prop is 100mg
    anavar is 20mg

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    sorry guys i dont mean to piss you off

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    sorry guys i dont mean to piss you off

    TOO LATE !!....lolol

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    OK, i will take a deep breath and try one last time.

    Test E should be run for 10 -12 weeks min
    Eq is best run at 600mgs/week for a minimum of 12 weeks
    Test Prop has to be shot ED or at the least EOD and you already have test E so why do you need Test Prop

    You will want Nolva, Clomid, and possible HCG for PCT
    anything else like Tribestan is a BONUS not the staple

    you should right it out somethign like this

    Weeks 1-13 test E at 500mgs/week broken down into two shots Mon morn-thurs night
    Weeks 1-12 Eq at 600mgs/week can be shot mixed with the test

    PCT starts 14 days after last test E shot

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    OK bro this is what a first cycle should look like.

    1-12 test-e 500mg week split dose 250x2
    6-14 var 50 to 60 mg day
    1-12 arimadex .5 to 1.0 day
    12-pct nolv 40mg day

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    By the way prop is very pain full and needs to be shoot ed.

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    We are trying bro.

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    shoot it ED?

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    did we stutter??? YES EVERYDAY !!!

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    Hey bro read this. Then go over to the steroid profile form and read all the profiles on each compound you have.

    Testosterone ester and how it works.

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    every day with prop, wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    every day with prop, wow
    Yes and it's pain full.

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    Test E weeks 1-13 500mgs/week
    Equipoise weeks 1-12 400-600mgs/week
    Anavar weeks 1-4 60mgs/day


    If you don't want to shoot everyday with prop , drop it.

    + I would get more var, so you could run it for 6 weeks.

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    weeks 1-5 test-enth- 500mgs/week (split dose 250x2)
    weeks 1-5 EQ- 500mgs/week (split dose 250x2)
    weeks 5-10 test-prop- 100mg/week (tri split dose 33x3)
    weeks 5-10 anavar 60mgs/day (tri spit dose 20x3)
    weeks 5-PCT arimidex 0.5 every day
    PCT Tibistan

    Is that better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    weeks 1-5 test-enth- 500mgs/week (split dose 250x2)
    weeks 1-5 EQ- 500mgs/week (split dose 250x2)
    weeks 5-10 test-prop- 100mg/week (tri split dose 33x3)
    weeks 5-10 anavar 60mgs/day (tri spit dose 20x3)
    weeks 5-PCT arimidex 0.5 every day
    PCT Tibistan

    Is that better?

    What part of an ester do you not understand. Tell me so i can helo you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzatch
    age 24, weight 180 pounds, hieght 5'10, High protein diet low carbs, training consists of.......Gym= 5 days a week training chest, shoulders, arms, back, legs. 1 group a day, will do 4-5 different exercises with 4 sets of 8 on each muslce group, for abs and cardio i do ever other day, 5km jog. Ive previously done sustanon 250 with the dbol, my goal is to get ripped and hard.


    Your stats aren't very "qualified" for someone who should be cycleing.....
    You have the stats of a natural and You've done sust and dbol .
    How old are you? Your obviously doing something wrong if you've been putting in alot of days training & dieting and being your size when your goal is to get bigger.

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    NOOOOOOOOOOO that is exactly the same as you started with and it SUCKS

    you are NOT even trying to understand or LEARN what you are doing!

    I am done!!

    GOOD LUCK with whatever you do

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