what benefit does winni give while cutting?

[tiger909]

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[tiger909]

bump......so can winny retain muscle even on a 1800 kcal/day diet..spread over 4 meals or so...

[*Narkissos*]

Your initial question: "what benefit does winni give while cutting", assumes that it DOES 'give benefit'.

As to your second question, winny isn't magic.

Will anabolics assist in retaining proteinaceous tissue while on a caloric deficit? Possibly.. some more so than others.

bump......so can winny retain muscle even on a 1800 kcal/day diet..spread over 4 meals or so...

But who is to say just how much of a caloric deficit this is for you specifically? 1800 is a vague number of no specific significance. Cut your kcals too low and it doesn't matter how many ergogenics you're supplementing..you'll lose muscle.

Your meal timing is bad. Eating just 4 meals is not ideal.. Again, if your kcal intake is too low.. your meal timing poor (thus encouraing higher than normal cortisol output), it doesn't matter how many compounds you ingest.. you'll lose muscle.

Time to do some reading buddy

Narkissos

[magic32]

Very well put!

Even if you would have presented stats, there's no way anyone could possibly determine your body's nutritional demands, metabolic rate, or how anti-catabolic a compound would be for you.

Like Nark said "study". I'd add, keep a log to learn from your personal experimentation.

M.

[stayinstacked]

I find on winstrol that I piss alot, I beleive it has a strong diuretic effect to it, the orals I'm on do anyways. I also look better on winny when I dont go as low w/ my carbs, I never really drop below 200 grams

[*Narkissos*]

That's water SS...

He's asking about cutting

[stayinstacked]

That's water SS...

He's asking about cutting

Only thing thats going to get him cut is diet and cardio, winstrol is a drug of choice because it's fast acting and doesnt hold water, but is it like the actual steroid is peeling the fat off, not to much degree I wouldnt think. Winstrol is great to bulk with too, just have to up your dosage to 100mg ed IMO. What you think?

[*Narkissos*]

Winstrol is great to bulk with too, just have to up your dosage to 100mg ed IMO. What you think?

About using winstrol for bulking?

Hell yea... It's actually my favorite compound.

[boxingbean]

i like cardio for cuttin..........

[stayinstacked]

i like cardio for cuttin..........

Yea, but cardio and winni is better, hehehe

[Gunns420]

I didnt know Winny was commonly used for a bulking cycle. I added it into my first cycle with Test E and I got flamed for it. Was using 50mg ed, 25mg 2 times a day with 500mg of test E per week. I think next cycle I'm going to run it 100mg a day ed for the last 4 weeks.

[tiger909]

i have been cutting for 10 weeks, lost 18 lb. was just trying to lose the last bit and im having trouble...thought i would go low cal with winni to retain the muscle i do have...thats the only reason i wanted it

[tiger909]

heres my stats and pics in this thread

[*Narkissos*]

heres my stats and pics in this thread

where?

[stupidhippo]

this is a good point brought up by ppl here. So many seem to think that winnie is some sort of compund that "cuts" u automatically while using lets say deca u will bulk up for sure (easy to make this assumption from just surfing online a bit).. Granted different compunds can have a different effect on lipolysys, BMR, water retention etc but basically its the diet that determines if u are losing fat or not and anabolics can help to retain muscle and speed up the process a bit. U can cut while on deca and dbol and u can bulk up with winnie.

[tiger909]

this is a good point brought up by ppl here. So many seem to think that winnie is some sort of compund that "cuts" u automatically while using lets say deca u will bulk up for sure (easy to make this assumption from just surfing online a bit).. Granted different compunds can have a different effect on lipolysys, BMR, water retention etc but basically its the diet that determines if u are losing fat or not and anabolics can help to retain muscle and speed up the process a bit. U can cut while on deca and dbol and u can bulk up with winnie.

everyone has misunderstood me as of yet

im saying how about using winni while cutting so i can lower my calories even further and still keep my muscle......refer above for stats and pix

[stupidhippo]

i dont see the pics and stats.. but if u are asking weather if the winnie is the best choice for u to finalize ur cutting (keep the muscles) I am not sure.. It is ok choice for sure, but the best? maybe someone else knows.. oh yeah are u currently on gear or not? if not I wouldnt advise winnie only cycle.. can have many problems...depending on ur cycle history but a simple test at 500 mg a week will help u to retain muscle while cutting.. u will gain some water weight but that doesnt matter after u stop the gear.... but this all depends on many things, age, stats, cycle history etc etc..

[tiger909]

pics are at the middle of the page

[tiger909]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=261096


sorry

[stupidhippo]

u look good for being a natural... If I was u I wouldnt start juicing just yet but if u start now I understand that viewpoint also, atleast u have a decent base...