First cycle needs critique

[mateo112]

whats up all. my name matt and i'm planning on doing my first cycle. here is what i've come up with

100 Oral Tabs of Dianabol for Immediate Strength & Size Gains

40ML (4,000mg) of Some Type of Base Testosterone Like Sustanon 250, Enanthate or Propionate

Anti-Estrogen tabs like Novladex (in case i'm prone to gyno)

50 25mg Post-cycle recovery tabs like Clomid

This is what i'm planning to order. tell me what you guys think. is this good for my first cycle. is it to much cause i've read i should cycle a test only cycle first. which test out of these do you like best. i'm still unsure which one i want.

my stats are 19 years old, 6'3" 220, 15-20 % bf (probably in the upper half), been training for 4 years on and off,(10 months striaght right now) diet is in check but i am getting a nutionist to dot all the I's and cross the T's

Have a bodybuilding show i want to enter in april. not sure if i'll cycle before or after show. what do you guys think?

thanks mateo

[bishop23]

Okay, go Dbol at 50mg for 30 days, 10 days at 25mg (that is if you can get 50mg capsules).

Go Test Enthanate or Cyp at 400 - 500mg / week.

Honestly, I would also, do EQ at 400 - 500mg/week.

I like longer (to me it is longer) cycles at around 16 weeks. So, this would be nice:


DBOL:
Week 1 - 4: Dbol at 50mg/day
Week 5: Dbol at 25mg/day

Test Enth (or Cyp) - same thing basically:
Week 1 - 16: 400mg/week, shoot twice per week

EQ (or Deca - I LOVE EQ more because I get so much more vascular):
Week 1 - 16: 400mg/week, shoot twice per week

You can mix the test/eq in the same syringe. Use 1" x 23g x 3mL.

Arimidex : the whole way through: 0.5mg per day.

Clomid: RIGHT AFTER CYCLE!

You should see great results. Many will tell you...just start with TEST...but almost everyone says "I wish I just added one more thing" because by adding EQ especially, you will be ****ing RIPPED as **** so long as your diet is okay. Honestly, I don't really pay attention to my diet besides getting 5 - 7 meals per day including shakes, protein at 300g/day, and fat relatively low (eventhough lately I have been slamming chicken wings).

Take a before/after picture. Also, if you are doing show (And it is not NATURAL), you will most likely get smoked if you are not sauced up somewhat especially with that high of bodyfat. DO THE SHIT BEFORE THE SHOW - BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, use this site and other resources to make sure you keep what you gain! It can be done, but 16 weeks goes by fast and planning is so important to keep your gains. Good luck lad.

Bish

Use Arimidex at .5 per day OR if you want to use Nolv, use that - I like Arimidex.

Clomid post-cycle (see the steroid .com Cycles for the schedule). With competitive pricing nowadays, you can probably spend $200 - $350 for all of that depending on where you get it. Don't ask for sources on this board though, there are lots just look around carefully.

[Gunns420]

Oh Boy. I'll let someone else flame you on this. All I'll say is 19 years old is WAAAAAAY too young for steroids , regardless of how long you have been training. Unless you dont mind having a useless dick before you're 25. And no Letro? You got alot of learning to do my friend- stay away from the gear.

[Gunns420]

oh yeah- and 15-20% bodyfat? thats quite a range, you dont need AAS you need lots of Cardio and a good diet. You are going to hurt yourself bro- you dont have a clue about using AAS

[FranKieC]

Okay, go Dbol at 50mg for 30 days, 10 days at 25mg (that is if you can get 50mg capsules).

Go Test Enthanate or Cyp at 400 - 500mg / week.

Honestly, I would also, do EQ at 400 - 500mg/week.

I like longer (to me it is longer) cycles at around 16 weeks. So, this would be nice:


DBOL:
Week 1 - 4: Dbol at 50mg/day
Week 5: Dbol at 25mg/day

Test Enth (or Cyp) - same thing basically:
Week 1 - 16: 400mg/week, shoot twice per week

EQ (or Deca - I LOVE EQ more because I get so much more vascular):
Week 1 - 16: 400mg/week, shoot twice per week

You can mix the test/eq in the same syringe. Use 1" x 23g x 3mL.

Arimidex : the whole way through: 0.5mg per day.

Clomid: RIGHT AFTER CYCLE!

You should see great results. Many will tell you...just start with TEST...but almost everyone says "I wish I just added one more thing" because by adding EQ especially, you will be ****ing RIPPED as **** so long as your diet is okay. Honestly, I don't really pay attention to my diet besides getting 5 - 7 meals per day including shakes, protein at 300g/day, and fat relatively low (eventhough lately I have been slamming chicken wings).

Take a before/after picture. Also, if you are doing show (And it is not NATURAL), you will most likely get smoked if you are not sauced up somewhat especially with that high of bodyfat. DO THE SHIT BEFORE THE SHOW - BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, use this site and other resources to make sure you keep what you gain! It can be done, but 16 weeks goes by fast and planning is so important to keep your gains. Good luck lad.

Bish

Use Arimidex at .5 per day OR if you want to use Nolv, use that - I like Arimidex.

Clomid post-cycle (see the steroid.com Cycles for the schedule). With competitive pricing nowadays, you can probably spend $200 - $350 for all of that depending on where you get it. Don't ask for sources on this board though, there are lots just look around carefully.

So you think at 19yo he is old enought to run a cycle?

I wouldn't run a cycle yet bro..I would research as much as possible and also concentrate on getting your BF down to around 10% before cycling.

[bishop23]

Who needs a dick when you biceps? jk...I didn't see the 19 years old part.

Bro, wait until you are 25 before you jump on the juice train. If you were born in 1987 and were just recently allowed to buy cigarettes and drive a car, you are way too young for drugs of this nature. Gunns is right - you need to wait. Just put on size and research so when you are 25, you will be ready if you still want it. They are VERY ADDICTING (psychologically) and you will be doing them perhaps for a long time. 100% of the people who start, the same comments are the same: I am just going to do one cycle to see how well it works JUST TO SAY I TRIED IT.

That never happens. You will be doing another cycle in the Spring and the Summer, and then again, and again, and again. It is easy to give advice and I am sure you will do it anyways, but believe me, you need a very strong mind to tell yourself and ACTUALLY STICK TO IT: I will do one cycle and that is it. NO ****ING WAY...PLUS - you are 19. Why are you doing this? Are you playing professional sports or a probodybuilder...or do you think girls will think it is cool because you will get jacked? Don't do it solely for pool parties...because you are riding a dangerous train. Be careful.

[mateo112]

i figured 19 is to young. i read mixed info on when to start. i want to get some gear on hand so i'll have it. when i start cycling doesn't have to be right when all the gear gets in. right on for lookin out though

[mateo112]

[QUOTE=bishop23] Are you playing professional sports or a probodybuilder...


shoot one day i'll be in the pro ranks. just as soon as my bf% is down

[Hellmaskbanned]

[QUOTE=mateo112]

Are you playing professional sports or a probodybuilder...


shoot one day i'll be in the pro ranks. just as soon as my bf% is down

Whats bodyfat % got to do in sports?
Are you a bber?

[Daemonn]

Oh Boy. I'll let someone else flame you on this. All I'll say is 19 years old is WAAAAAAY too young for steroids, regardless of how long you have been training. Unless you dont mind having a useless dick before you're 25. And no Letro? You got alot of learning to do my friend- stay away from the gear.

Lol, since when is Letro a necessity? Other than that I agree with you, at 19 and with such a high bf% AAS should be the last thing that guy should be doing...

[bishop23]

Dude, you want gear to keep onhand - for what...7 or 8 years? Gear will not go away. I don't give a rat's ass how many investigations are done, how many Dateline special reports are shown, how many bathtub-steroid dealers get brought down or smugglers from Mexico get nabbed...there will always be steroids and a readily available supply of them.

When you are 25, the shit out then will probably be unbelievable so just wait. You will be probably be able to take one pill a month with 50 time released drugs in it that has no side effects if biotechnology and medicinal advancements keep pace with the rate of science developments today.

Don't buy gear to save for 7 years in a time capsule...imagine that...seven years from now you are looking in some old cigar box with a porno tape and cigarettes you find a bottle of Equipoise with dust all over it.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Dude, you want gear to keep onhand - for what...7 or 8 years? Gear will not go away. I don't give a rat's ass how many investigations are done, how many Dateline special reports are shown, how many bathtub-steroid dealers get brought down or smugglers from Mexico get nabbed...there will always be steroids and a readily available supply of them.

When you are 25, the shit out then will probably be unbelievable so just wait. You will be probably be able to take one pill a month with 50 time released drugs in it that has no side effects if biotechnology and medicinal advancements keep pace with the rate of science developments today.

Don't buy gear to save for 7 years in a time capsule...imagine that...seven years from now you are looking in some old cigar box with a porno tape and cigarettes you find a bottle of Equipoise with dust all over it.

Just like now ......Whats the most popular aas?

What was 20 years ago? hmmmmmm

[mateo112]

Whats bodyfat % got to do in sports?
Are you a bber?

bodybuilder: well one in the making. first show next april

[mateo112]

Dude, you want gear to keep onhand - for what...7 or 8 years? Gear will not go away. I don't give a rat's ass how many investigations are done, how many Dateline special reports are shown, how many bathtub-steroid dealers get brought down or smugglers from Mexico get nabbed...there will always be steroids and a readily available supply of them.

When you are 25, the shit out then will probably be unbelievable so just wait. You will be probably be able to take one pill a month with 50 time released drugs in it that has no side effects if biotechnology and medicinal advancements keep pace with the rate of science developments today.

Don't buy gear to save for 7 years in a time capsule...imagine that...seven years from now you are looking in some old cigar box with a porno tape and cigarettes you find a bottle of Equipoise with dust all over it.

true. i won't want all the gear thats around today if it's way more advanced in the future. point well taken

[Daemonn]

Just like now ......Whats the most popular aas?

What was 20 years ago? hmmmmmm

lol, Dbol now and then!
Some things just dont change!

[G Child]

another good one