Anavar Myths

[RobbieG]

Hi there


I found this on another bboard, it's not by me.


Author: JSWIFT

MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.
False. Anavar , used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.
This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.

LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity
Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps
When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength
Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss
Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the a**omen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen .

CYCLE

Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

Cycle #1
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #2
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #3
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

If bulking, Test Enanthate could be substituted for prop, and 100mg could be injected every 3-4 days...however, this could cause more bloating, and complicate PCT timing.

LIVER PROTECTION

Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid , and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most.

It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone .

1 - Milk Thistle
The classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin

2 - R ALA
A powerful antioxidant

3 - NAC
Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione

4 - Vitamin C and E
Antioxidants

5 - LOADS of water
Helps to flush out your entire system

LIPID PROTECTION

Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax...

1 - Flax Oil
Consuming lots of ***** fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad.

2 - Policosanol
Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high.

3 - Niacin
Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of tim


Good read, imo

[Kale]

Excellent read and all true pretty much. It did kill my LGL/HDL big time though and some friends of mine as well

[RobbieG]

Excellent read and all true pretty much. It did kill my LGL/HDL big time though and some friends of mine as well

one thing I love about var is the price, my wallet is the only thing that gets killed.

[Swifto]

Intresting.

[Kale]

one thing I love about var is the price, my wallet is the only thing that gets killed.

I have never paid, I had 2000 given to me for nothing by a mate who got the powder cheap in China. I have eaten most of them !!!

[marcus300]

I have never paid, I had 2000 given to me for nothing by a mate who got the powder cheap in China. I have eaten most of them !!!

Greedy sod, were's mine?

[Kale]

Greedy sod, were's mine?

"In Ma Bellie"

[Swifto]

I have never paid, I had 2000 given to me for nothing by a mate who got the powder cheap in China. I have eaten most of them !!!

Can you introduce me please...

[Kale]

Can you introduce me please...

I would but he moved to Tokyo and doesnt make them anymore

[Swifto]

I would but he moved to Tokyo and doesnt make them anymore

Ah...

[Grappler13]

I've got a well priced supplier of my needs except for var. It's like a damned house payment. Anyone know why it's so pricey compared to other orals? Are the raw ingredients that much more expensive or is it the process?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic , and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.





Thats the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read. Stopped reading after that.

[Hellmaskbanned]

LOL It reminds me of a creatine ad. BWahahahahahahah

[Growingpains]

So then hellmask, are there any gains possible?

[Hellmaskbanned]

So then hellmask, are there any gains possible?

Off anavar ?

Yeah, but not 10-20lbs.

It has good vascular/hardening properties. If your goal is weight gain, You don't want to use var.

[scriptfactory]

Off anavar ?

Yeah, but not 10-20lbs.

It has good vascular/hardening properties. If your goal is weight gain, You don't want to use var.

20lbs from a var only cycle is just not going to happen. I think a member on here ran a winny + var cycle and gained like 8lbs with a (seemingly) good drop in BF but those results are definitely not the norm.

[Growingpains]

It definately is a mild steroid , and 20 pounds does seem like a lot.

Lol

[fLgAtOr]

Off anavar ?

Yeah, but not 10-20lbs.

It has good vascular/hardening properties. If your goal is weight gain, You don't want to use var.

Agreed.

I did notice that it did a great job at maintaining my strength while low on carbs. I never missed a beat in the gym.

As mild as it is, I would probably use it again to end my cycle...

[needsomehelp]

I have used only var, so I can't comment on anything else in comparison...having said that,

I am on my 3rd var cycle . Everytime, when I hit 2 weeks my strength explodes. I mean bench goes up almost 50 lbs with alot more stamina in sets. I've been running b/c I let myself go, so I'm at 206 now and hgt is 5' 11". Again I can't compare to anything due to lack of experience. At end of cycle I am friggin strong and very big looking (I've always had big shoulders and stuff however). I never did any post treatment stuff, and my strength did dip but not much. this cycle I'm doing 2 weeks at 40mg, and now now 70 to 80 x 6 weeks; then off. I love the stuff. My biggest reason not to make the injection jump (Been thinking Test) is the relative safety of var for what i consider great results. Only the price sucks.

PS- I F**k like a monkey on it too, just all around strong and feeling good.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I have used only var, so I can't comment on anything else in comparison...having said that,

I am on my 3rd var cycle . Everytime, when I hit 2 weeks my strength explodes. I mean bench goes up almost 50 lbs with alot more stamina in sets. I've been running b/c I let myself go, so I'm at 206 now and hgt is 5' 11". Again I can't compare to anything due to lack of experience. At end of cycle I am friggin strong and very big looking (I've always had big shoulders and stuff however). I never did any post treatment stuff, and my strength did dip but not much. this cycle I'm doing 2 weeks at 40mg, and now now 70 to 80 x 6 weeks; then off. I love the stuff. My biggest reason not to make the injection jump (Been thinking Test) is the relative safety of var for what i consider great results. Only the price sucks.

PS- I F**k like a monkey on it too, just all around strong and feeling good.

Hows your cholesterol values.......

Or do you get them checked? Var isn't very safe if ran alot in that department.

[G-1000]

good read with a lot of good info.