4th cycle/lean gains

**DarKOmeN** · 09-19-2006, 09:54 AM

currently on my 3rd buliking cycle containing
750mg E/W sus250 1-14
400mg E/W deca 1-13
50mg EOD prop 1-6

but planning ahead 4 a lean cycle for spring

test-e 500mg/week 1-12
masteron 50mg ed/ 8-14
winny 50 mg ed/ 1-4
winny 50mg ed 10-14

advice and comments on the 2nd cycle plz
P.S. wanting to use hcg never used it b4 and wanting to know wer to put it in cycle.
.....Darkomen

**V_Vandetta** · 09-19-2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by DarKOmeN

currently on my 3rd buliking cycle containing
750mg E/W sus250 1-14
400mg E/W deca 1-13
50mg EOD prop 1-6

but planning ahead 4 a lean cycle for spring

test-e 500mg/week 1-12
masteron 50mg ed/ 8-14
winny 50 mg ed/ 1-4
winny 50mg ed 10-14

advice and comments on the 2nd cycle plz
P.S. wanting to use hcg never used it b4 and wanting to know wer to put it in cycle.
.....Darkomen

bro Hcg in most used for PCt But i have run it during cycles Most times when running Deca when if any sides come on I would suggest to stop the deca atleast 2 weeks prior to your last injection of test and about a week or so after your test shot you can use HCg in Pct to help with natty test recovery also i would use letro for Pct with deca Since nolva is out also Hcg should not be run for no longer tha 10 days and with the cycle you have posted 500iu for -7-10 days will do fine and if things are running a little slow add a few weeks of clomid

as for the cutting cycle it looks good just one thing i think 100mg of masterone will be much better and yeild better results

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 09-19-2006, 10:22 AM

i am almost done w my test/ masteron part of my cycle. 500mg test per wk.
400mg masteron per week shot ED. Love the change in my body & I will run this again...but up the masteron dose next time. on a cut you will be good to go provided diet & cardio are in order...I may lower my test dose a bit to keep bloat down but probly not..good stuff

**DarKOmeN** · 09-19-2006, 10:25 AM

....Darkomen

**taiboxa** · 09-19-2006, 11:45 AM

like pinnacle has stated before and i fully aggree.. running the same oral back to back in conjunction is not ideal for hte 2nd run will yield significantly less gains..

i say run drol/dbol to start it
finish w/ win
up the masteron
or change masteron to trena nd run it longer

tren > mast !

**DarKOmeN** · 09-19-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

like pinnacle has stated before and i fully aggree.. running the same oral back to back in conjunction is not ideal for hte 2nd run will yield significantly less gains..

i say run drol/dbol to start it
finish w/ win
up the masteron
or change masteron to trena nd run it longer

tren > mast !

wanted lean gains, not much bloat so never fort of using dbol/drol to kickstart it never used tren b4 wot so is mast/tren a great combo like test/deca ? why finish with winny to harden up gains?

...Darkomen

**taiboxa** · 09-19-2006, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by DarKOmeN

wanted lean gains, not much bloat so never fort of using dbol /drol to kickstart it never used tren b4 wot so is mast/tren a great combo like test/deca ? why finish with winny to harden up gains?

...Darkomen

omg 4 weeks of bloat is too much LOL

winny like drol is a dht
but its great for drying out

i likie to jumpstart any cycle w/ a big str hitter like drol or halo
i like to finish w/ win since it has been proven to free up natty test via 2x passes through liver which some think will aid in recovery

u can start cycle w/ OT but i hate it and like drol/dbol better!
i dnot bloat on either one of those so i kant complain!

lol test/deca isnt a great combo its a basic.. deca is very anabolic and great! test is just used to keep ur penis working there is not real synergistic affects w/ em but w/ tren/masteron u get MAD ANDROGENIC NOR19 from TREN and MAD DHT from Mast which is a GRAET GREAT COMBO.

**DarKOmeN** · 09-19-2006, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

omg 4 weeks of bloat is too much LOL

winny like drol is a dht
but its great for drying out

i likie to jumpstart any cycle w/ a big str hitter like drol or halo
i like to finish w/ win since it has been proven to free up natty test via 2x passes through liver which some think will aid in recovery

u can start cycle w/ OT but i hate it and like drol/dbol better!
i dnot bloat on either one of those so i kant complain!

lol test/deca isnt a great combo its a basic.. deca is very anabolic and great! test is just used to keep ur penis working there is not real synergistic affects w/ em but w/ tren/masteron u get MAD ANDROGENIC NOR19 from TREN and MAD DHT from Mast which is a GRAET GREAT COMBO.

deca /test i no its old skool but still a great combo.
oh and thnx for the knowledge on the tren /mast great help
...Darkomen