has anybody tried thsi cycle if so...how were your gains? how were your sides? what did your dosages look like and how long was your cycle? thanks bros hope all your guys are getting big and strong
AO14
has anybody tried thsi cycle if so...how were your gains? how were your sides? what did your dosages look like and how long was your cycle? thanks bros hope all your guys are getting big and strong
AO14
im currently on test deca and tren huge gain in a month+ make sure you have something for your hair because it will thin out plus ai as well as anti prolactin heavy sides with deca and tren be careful but get ready to get big
if i ran them together i would run them like this(depending on cycle ex of course)
1-14 500-750 enth
1-10 400-600 npp
11-16 500-700 tren a
but since I hate long ester test i would prolly just run one or the other with prop along with an oral.
i NEVER RUN TREN w/o DECCA! IMO decca is mandatory for me since tren rapes my joints and shit.
i love running tren HIGH lol and deca Moderate since its not ur big hitter.
as always gains, and keapable gains depend on proper pct, diet and genetics
pm me if u got more q's
umm ur kidding bout the tren at the end like that right?Originally Posted by briansauras
its one of the most suppressive compounds out there, which has nasty lil metabolites that will cause suppression even after administrations have ceased.
would definetly revise that a lil bit
and lower the deca dose since tren is so potent its not like the deca is going to be a big hitter for ya
what the hell are you talking about i eat fina pellet cereal for breakfast on pctOriginally Posted by taiboxa
Ive never had any problems with deca I LOVE the stuff I always grow while on it, and I was BIG back in 2003 with my first cycle of deca and then i added sustanon250 at 500mg a week for about 12 weeks! BUT after the cycle I broke out like crazy my face was pretty bad...I only took nolvadex for my pct...so my only sides are hypertension and acne....I was 20 back then...I just turned 23 two weeks ago...since tren is NOT testosterone, would it be a better bet to use test propionate or tren to my deca 12 week cycle???
well you always want to have test as your base....why not just run test and tren together..I personally love that combo...you get the best of everything....big gains, strength skyrockets, and you stay lean (as long as your diet is in check) but seriously, I wouldn't run tren and deca only together! Test and deca or test and tren.......just my opinionOriginally Posted by AustrianOAK14
I always used prop when I ran tren twice before.....but this time I'm using test e cause I figure the tren gives you the gains right away and when the test e kicks in then it gets even better instead of having it happen all at once in the beginning...(just trying something new) so If you're going with the deca then I'd use prop, if you're going with tren I'd go with cyp or enanth........
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Originally Posted by one8nine
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Anyway be sure to add cabergoline with your tren/deca combo.
Originally Posted by BajanBastard
whats cabergoline????
also make sure you have some viagra on hand as well with that mixture...
cabergoline is a commonly prescribed drug for parkinson's disease, yet is used during or after a cycle, for gyno which you may experience from the deca, and lowered sex drive, that you may recieve from the combination of the drugs without the use of Test.
hi bro yeah i just finished a test cyp deca and tren cycle over 13 weeks just bout 2 start my pct now i gained bout 10 kgs of muscle and didnt gain any bodyfat i ran
Test cyp weeks 1-13 800mg a week
Tren weeks 1-5 75mg ed
deca weeks 1-11 600mg a week
how bad was the side bro?Originally Posted by proironaust
yeah wasnt 2 bad first time on tren had night sweats and felt a little sick i was goin to run the tren for 6 weeks but cut it short this cycle was more for bulking(bodymass)after i cut the tren the deca blew me up a bit and i was a lot stronger.
It reduces prolactin/progestin which is your real problem with 19-nors such as deca/tren, not estrogen primarily.Originally Posted by AustrianOAK14
Originally Posted by taiboxa
Interesting.
.....y would u run decca n tren together??? without test???
Originally Posted by briansauras
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Originally Posted by boxingbean
Who said anything about no test?
Test is just a precautionary measure IMO.
Test does not have to be the base of every cycle. I think people assume this is a rule written in stone somewhere. The upside if Test in cycles is to keep Libido in check and to maximize your cycles potential.
Ive ran deca/dbol cycles and deca only cycles and have ahd GOOD gains, deca gains tend to stay wtih me longer than the TYPICAL test BUlkers!!!
always use a test product/DHT / and progesterone derivitive in conjunction, never two of each.
Originally Posted by Swole33
You can run two of each, you just need to be more cautious of prolactin/progestin if its a 19nor . Cabergoline should help a lot.
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does cabergoline have any effect on progesterone levels/receptors or anything realted to that? that would be news to me.. It is a dopamin agonist used to lower prolactin levels because of dopamins negative feedback to prolactin release..
Originally Posted by stupidhippo
It reduces both prolactin and progesterone if I'm not mistaken.
Bump for definative answer.
will 50 mg\day give me results with tren? or 100mg\eod? thinkin off put it in to my deca and test cycle.
Originally Posted by fitman
Possibly. Take cabergoline with it if you are taking deca too.
do you think i should up my dose til 100 ed.? or will 50 be enough? is it possible to take it without cabergolin?
Originally Posted by fitman
50 may or may not be enough. You can use it without cabergoline but if you would research you will see that it is a good idea to take it, unless you dont care about the risks of increased prolactin.
im running 600mg deca, so i dont think its a good idea to use carboline :P hehe so 150 eod could be bether? thxm8
Are you joking? Cause you should DEFINATELY take cabergoline if you are running deca and tren.Originally Posted by fitman
150mg EOD would be more but the more often you inject, the more stabel your blood levels are and the less likely you will be to experience side effects. Its up to you on how much of a chance you want ot take.
no jokebut im want to add one more fast acting ester. maby tren is the one... do you have a idea, not winstrol or mast, im on a bulker.
no jokebut im want to add one more fast acting ester. maby tren is the one... do you have a idea, not winstrol or mast, im on a bulker.
need help , what ester would flip right in and work well in my cycle running test dec.
winstrol or masteron.
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